On 01/26/2018 04:23 PM, Ivy Foster wrote: > Hi, folks, > > I'm writing to apply to be a TU, and Alad Wenter has kindly agreed to > be my sponsor.
It is great to see you take the plunge, I wish you the best of luck! > Arch has always been a rewarding community to contribute to, and I > figure that maintaining some packages and generally helping out could > be a good way to contribute a bit more. > > If accepted to be a TU, my plan of action is as follows: > 1. Go mad with power^U > 1. Bring a handful of packages into [community] (see below) > 2. Help out with rebuilds and package updates where that does not > involve stepping on toes > 3. Continue to submit occasional patches to Arch projects > 4. Help with to-do lists. Off the top of my head, taking a quick look > at current to-do lists with actual outstanding items: > > > https://www.archlinux.org/todo/packages-with-out-of-repositories-dependencies/ > I'd be interested both in simply weeding out those > with inappropriate deps and in bringing in deps I'd > consider actually useful, such as tcllib for tcl-remind. > > https://www.archlinux.org/todo/source-retirement/ > https://www.archlinux.org/todo/codegooglecom-retirement/ > I wouldn't mind tracking down lost sources. Sounds like a (wo)man after my own heart! This reminds me I still have so much to do... like all that https/gpg stuff. I will welcome the help, certainly. ;) > Thanks for your consideration, and I'm of course happy to answer > questions and address critiques. We discussed this on IRC already, I'll have to check and see how you've adapted to my suggestions. But overall, quite good! Detailed review at the end... > - [ledger][5] > This program is super useful, and I doubt I'm the only one who > dreads every boost update because this takes so long to build! Lukas has beaten you to it: https://packages.archlinux.org/ledger -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User ... 2018-01-25 07:05:26 PM guys escondida: I heard the news, good for you! 2018-01-25 07:06:48 PM escondida guys: haha, well, nothing's official yet. Still gotta actually, like apply (-: 2018-01-25 07:06:50 PM escondida But thanks! 2018-01-25 07:06:52 PM escondida How're you? 2018-01-25 07:07:11 PM guys Doing well 2018-01-25 07:07:27 PM guys I cloned your AUR packages and am going to look through them. 2018-01-25 07:07:51 PM guys I noticed something immediately, cgo-git has a custom:cgo-git license, but it is really an ISC license. 2018-01-25 07:08:15 PM guys And it installs the whole source code in /usr/share/licenses/ instead of using sed to extract it or something. :p 2018-01-25 07:09:25 PM guys I'd just extract the first few lines using sed, until I hit the first */ and call it a day 2018-01-25 07:11:05 PM escondida Seems like a good solution 2018-01-25 07:11:25 PM guys Also, the upstream Makefile is terrible and should use CFLAGS properly :p 2018-01-25 07:11:36 PM escondida Yup 2018-01-25 07:12:27 PM guys I want pull requests to fix this :p 2018-01-25 07:12:43 PM escondida Yeah, I should really do that 2018-01-25 07:13:09 PM escondida The main reason I haven't is that I haven't actually *used* cgo-git much at all since the day I installed it; I just wanted a gopher client around on principle 2018-01-25 07:13:20 PM guys hah 2018-01-25 07:14:13 PM fsckd wait? did escondida actually apply or is this just info. moving along the grapevine? 2018-01-25 07:14:28 PM guys fist, should be upgraded to use HTTPS since their website upgrades you anyway 2018-01-25 07:14:50 PM guys fsckd: not yet, but we of the secret towers get advance warning! 2018-01-25 07:15:23 PM fsckd cool! 2018-01-25 07:16:41 PM escondida Haha, I'm glad they upgraded to https! It still amazes me that the program is still floating around at all 2018-01-25 07:16:51 PM guys Oh this is terrible, fist sets mandir=$prefix/man instead of $prefix/share/man 2018-01-25 07:16:57 PM @jasonwryan escondida: I use cgo-git, it works great! 2018-01-25 07:17:01 PM escondida yusssss 2018-01-25 07:18:20 PM fsckd jasonwryan: your gopher site is rather... bare... :P 2018-01-25 07:18:40 PM @jasonwryan fsckd: work in progress :p 2018-01-25 07:18:48 PM guys `INSTALL_PROGRAM='install -D' *might* make fist not need to have all directories created beforehand. 2018-01-25 07:18:56 PM @jasonwryan well, stalled wip maybe a better description 2018-01-25 07:20:03 PM fsckd jasonwryan: what do you use for a server? 2018-01-25 07:20:49 PM fsckd when i finally get my site up. i may consider making a gopher mirror. 2018-01-25 07:20:50 PM guys escondida: no, sadly that will not work as this Makefile contains freaking dependencies on $(BINDIR) 2018-01-25 07:20:56 PM escondida guys: That is clever, but I usually try to avoid weird cleverness (-: 2018-01-25 07:20:58 PM guys I have to lol at this Makefile 2018-01-25 07:21:03 PM @jasonwryan fsckd: gofish 2018-01-25 07:21:16 PM guys "make: *** No rule to make target '/var/cache/makepkg/builddir/fist/pkg/fist/usr/bin', needed by 'install-bin'. Stop." 2018-01-25 07:21:17 PM escondida Well, keep in mind it's a program dating back to punched card days. I'm willing to cut it some slack (-: 2018-01-25 07:21:49 PM guys I'm having more fun with the software you package than your actual PKGBUILDs... 2018-01-25 07:21:53 PM escondida haha 2018-01-25 07:21:58 PM escondida I'm glad (-: 2018-01-25 07:22:18 PM fsckd gofish is also a webserver, interesting... 2018-01-25 07:23:06 PM fsckd jasonwryan: thanks :) 2018-01-25 07:23:37 PM @jasonwryan np :) 2018-01-25 07:24:56 PM guys Hmm, we seem to have *many* standards for declaring custom:PublicDomain with or without spaces or, for that matter, underscores 2018-01-25 07:27:18 PM escondida I vow that if I'm accepted, I'll propose a public domain PKGBUILD licensing standard 2018-01-25 07:27:26 PM escondida in the next decade 2018-01-25 07:27:55 PM guys frotz-git conflicts and *replaces* frotz, which is wrong, it should provide it instead 2018-01-25 07:28:23 PM guys replaces means that if you pacman -Syu and find it in a repo, it gets synced as a replacement for what you currently have... 2018-01-25 07:28:51 PM escondida Ah, whoops. 2018-01-25 07:29:11 PM guys I can hardly read the sed line you use in pkgver() 2018-01-25 07:29:22 PM guys sed 's,-\(.*\)-,.r\1.,' 2018-01-25 07:29:30 PM guys wrong place to use , as separators! 2018-01-25 07:30:00 PM guys Also sed -r --no-backslash --this-should-be-default 2018-01-25 07:30:09 PM guys I am probably guilty of this myself 2018-01-25 07:30:37 PM * guys proposes an amendment to the VCS Package Guidelines 2018-01-25 07:30:51 PM guys jasonwryan: fix everything! 2018-01-25 07:31:16 PM escondida I went with commas since it was more readable than slashes, but I'm open to other characters 2018-01-25 07:31:22 PM guys I usually use @ 2018-01-25 07:31:32 PM guys It's fairly unlikely to be used elsewhere in code 2018-01-25 07:31:34 PM escondida And -E/-r --no-backslash *should* be the default, yeah 2018-01-25 07:33:03 PM guys But anyway, to modify 2.44-196-gf3ceac9 could just use the standard sed line from the wiki page 2018-01-25 07:34:05 PM escondida that one *I* can hardly read (-: 2018-01-25 07:34:19 PM guys (Because of course everyone knows what it does, even if they don't know why) 2018-01-25 07:34:34 PM guys Clearly this must be better! 2018-01-25 07:34:41 PM escondida hehe 2018-01-25 07:35:21 PM escondida ...dang it. I made the password for the ssh key I use for the AUR too perfect and uncrackable 2018-01-25 07:35:48 PM guys Use of sed to modify more than three things in prepare should be strictly prohibited; use a patch file 2018-01-25 07:35:48 PM escondida ...and because all my AUR scripts are either -git or ultra stable, I haven't had to use it in ages 2018-01-25 07:36:00 PM escondida Yeah, that's fair enough 2018-01-25 07:36:01 PM guys oh lol 2018-01-25 07:36:56 PM guys Please tell upstream to use ?= anyway :) 2018-01-25 07:38:23 PM guys Hmm, actually that might be a simple sed line ;) 2018-01-25 07:39:30 PM escondida I will 2018-01-25 07:39:46 PM guys libbulletml: 2018-01-25 07:39:48 PM guys > # upstream does not provide checksums, though Debian does for their patches 2018-01-25 07:40:04 PM guys This is not a reason to disable checks for download errors. 2018-01-25 07:41:09 PM guys Why does libbulletml.so need to modify CFLAGS CXXFLAGS :( 2018-01-25 07:41:21 PM guys And why does it overwrite LDFLAGS, instead? 2018-01-25 07:41:41 PM guys Does it derp on the LDFLAGS from makepkg.conf? 2018-01-25 07:42:17 PM guys Why does it create libbulletml.a anyway, if makepkg automatically strips staticlibs? 2018-01-25 07:42:32 PM escondida I think it must've, but it's been a couple years since I looked at it 2018-01-25 07:42:42 PM escondida I'll revisit that, too 2018-01-25 07:43:58 PM guys libcss-git should probably use git+https:// for TLS security purposes 2018-01-25 07:45:31 PM guys Same with the other netsurf related packages 2018-01-25 07:45:42 PM escondida Good point 2018-01-25 07:49:02 PM guys lua-cosmo-git: is built, in package(). 2018-01-25 07:49:27 PM guys If it cannot be built separately from the install command, build it in build() and cp -a it in package() 2018-01-25 07:50:12 PM escondida Oh, right, I meant to drop that one. Instead, I'll update it and then drop it. 2018-01-25 07:51:23 PM guys rrootage: the pkgdesc is self-referential, remove the first two words 2018-01-25 07:52:12 PM guys And it downloads from http://downloads.sourceforge.net, but that can be upgraded to https:// even if the website cannot 2018-01-25 07:53:05 PM guys Is http://ftp.de.debian.org/ really the best download url? I would assume they have something that redirects to the right country mirror 2018-01-25 07:53:06 PM phrik Title: Index of / (at ftp.de.debian.org) 2018-01-25 07:53:53 PM escondida Hmm, good questions both 2018-01-25 07:56:23 PM guys Is sndio-git/0001-put-cookie-somewhere-better.patch upstreamable? 2018-01-25 07:56:32 PM guys Or have you tried and they rejected it 2018-01-25 07:56:59 PM guys http://www.soimort.org/translate-shell/ is available over HTTPS 2018-01-25 07:57:00 PM phrik Title: Translate Shell (at www.soimort.org) 2018-01-25 07:57:09 PM guys As is the github repo via git+https:// ;) 2018-01-25 07:57:29 PM guys pkgver=v0.9.0.4.7.g1a4d83e # should have the leading v stripped 2018-01-25 07:58:38 PM escondida guys: sndio is one that I'd actually be interested in packaging; if I did, I wouldn't include the patch. To be honest, I haven't tried to submit it, if only because of *bsd's general rejection of XDG dirs (also, I'd need to actually rewrite it to be...more robust 2018-01-25 07:58:53 PM guys ah 2018-01-25 07:59:09 PM guys https://github.com/soimort/translate-shell/blob/develop/Makefile 2018-01-25 07:59:10 PM phrik Title: translate-shell/Makefile at develop · soimort/translate-shell · GitHub (at github.com) 2018-01-25 07:59:22 PM guys latest commit to that file says "Implement DESTDIR support" 2018-01-25 07:59:39 PM guys Complete with mkdir -p ;) 2018-01-25 08:00:18 PM escondida yusss 2018-01-25 08:00:44 PM guys And /usr/share/licenses/${_gitname}/LICENSE is technically quite wrong, that is not the package the license is for at all 2018-01-25 08:00:57 PM guys besides which it does not conflict/provide the non-git version 2018-01-25 08:01:23 PM guys I think that is everything I could see from a quick run-through 2018-01-25 08:02:34 PM escondida That's a lot already (-: 2018-01-25 08:02:41 PM escondida I'll try to fix 'em up! 2018-01-25 08:02:45 PM escondida Thanks for the critiques! 2018-01-25 08:03:14 PM guys no problem! I do this as a public service whenever I spot PKGBUILDs in aur-general or the forums, anyway 2018-01-25 08:04:36 PM escondida hehe 2018-01-25 08:04:38 PM escondida Sweet 2018-01-25 08:06:04 PM guys I sort of feel this is my duty as a TU, in fact... 2018-01-25 08:06:23 PM guys And an extra duty when evaluating new TUs 2018-01-25 08:06:35 PM -- You are now known as ztrawhcse 2018-01-25 08:06:41 PM ztrawhcse You may recognize me, in fact 2018-01-25 08:07:08 PM ztrawhcse xxarhtna and ztrawhcse are the official linters 2018-01-25 08:07:33 PM escondida haha 2018-01-25 08:11:18 PM ztrawhcse I sometimes hide out in random channels under assumed names, and lint peoples' PKGBUILDs when they don't expect it. 2018-01-25 08:12:30 PM escondida Nobody expects the---well, you know the rest. 2018-01-25 08:44:58 PM escondida God, I'm gonna have to get into cgo's source. I forgot that it just dumps colors everywhere 2018-01-25 08:45:21 PM escondida so if you're, say...using it in a dumb terminal...it's just a mess 2018-01-25 08:45:42 PM escondida but hey, PRs submitted and PKGBUILD updated in the interim 2018-01-25 09:13:00 PM escondida ztrawhcse: Actually, here's an odd question about an edge case 2018-01-25 09:13:38 PM ztrawhcse do tell 2018-01-25 09:13:51 PM ztrawhcse (also, no one thought to grab my last comment?) 2018-01-25 09:13:57 PM escondida hehe 2018-01-25 09:14:02 PM ztrawhcse I'm sort of surprised 2018-01-25 09:14:17 PM ztrawhcse Anyway. Edge cases. 2018-01-25 09:15:07 PM escondida actually, hang on a sec 2018-01-25 09:17:07 PM escondida Okay, nevermind 2018-01-25 09:17:28 PM escondida ztrawhcse: It had to do with the members of a split package conlicting with each other when they shouldn't 2018-01-25 09:17:36 PM escondida The solution was simply to have them provide different things 2018-01-25 09:17:56 PM ztrawhcse frotz-git I guess? 2018-01-25 09:18:04 PM escondida Yup! 2018-01-25 09:18:38 PM escondida frotz is one of the packages I'm interested in bringing to the repos. I don't know how many people are actually interested in old text adventures, but *I* think they're positively xyzzy. 2018-01-25 09:18:48 PM ztrawhcse So, using replaces, hid the problem! 2018-01-25 09:18:51 PM escondida and new ones are often interesting and strange 2018-01-25 09:18:54 PM escondida Yup! 2018-01-25 09:19:55 PM ztrawhcse I remember frotz, showing up compiled for all the different e-ink ereaders. 2018-01-25 09:20:16 PM escondida Oh, neat 2018-01-25 09:20:48 PM ztrawhcse e.g. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186007 2018-01-25 09:20:49 PM phrik Title: K5 Frotz curses interface for Kindle Touch (via XTerm) - MobileRead Forums (at www.mobileread.com) 2018-01-25 09:23:29 PM escondida I cleaned up its ncurses code a little bit a last year, because I wanted XDG basedir support and ended up messing with a bit more 2018-01-25 10:09:05 PM escondida ztrawhcse: As a side benefit of your critiques, I discovered that debian has updated their rrootage patchset 2018-01-25 10:09:25 PM ztrawhcse Nice! 2018-01-25 10:09:35 PM escondida Yus
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