On 01/09/19 at 03:16pm, William Gathoye wrote: > Hello everyone, > > First of all, following a discussion on Twitter, I wanted to know > whether this company is authorized to sell goodies (hoodies) with the > Arch Linux trademark on it? I know it is being listed on the > archlinux.org frontpage, but I wonder what's percentage is given to the > project as compensation [1].
As written on the website: "From your purchase we support free software, usually $3-5 from each product sold". > With FOSDEM behind the corner, there have been quite a few discussions > on social media and IRC recently regarding stands/community involvement > etc. A few questions have been raised wrt. trademark/acting on behalf of > the project, etc. and I wasn't able to find an answer on the Wiki. Who > can speak on behalf of the community, etc? Even if Arch Linux is a > meritocratic organization, do we have such a person inside our > community? Maybe it's the right time to fill the gap in the wiki? I think anyone can speak for the community, being a member of the community. There is however a clear disctinction between being a team member and being a community member. One adds more weight then the other. > To understand better the situation, let's imagine a few use cases. > > 1. Someone who wants to craft Arch Linux merchandising for him/herself > and others given free of charge. > > e.g. I attend FOSDEM and I want to show others I'm an Arch Linux > user. If another Arch Linux user passes by and ask me if I have goodies, > give them free of charge. I believe this falls under "Advocacy" of the Trademark policy. > 2. Someone wants to craft Arch Linux merchandising for others. No gain > other than the one to cover the fees of the company we are ordering from > e.g. Zazzle. > > e.g. An Arch Linux stand is organized at FOSDEM and I want to > organize it. I believe this is ok, not 100% sure. > 3. A magazine is asking the stand organizer to make an interview on > behalf of the community with a question like why do you have dropped > i686 compatibility? What is the project direction for the next few > years, etc. Anyone can be interviewed, but I wouldn't say you can claim to be a representative of the project if you aren't on the team. > 4. Someone wants to give money to the project. Can he receive a document > for taxing purpose? See http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/ > What is the legal process for these aforementioned use cases? According > to the trademark rules, we have to ask the the Arch Linux Project Lead > for "merchandising purposes".[2] Does asking money to the end user to > cover charge can be considered as a commercial activity even if we are > not making profits? Are we allowed to answer questions that could > involve the whole community? > > When someone is donating money to the project, who is receiving it? How > can we have transparency about the IN/OUT of the treasury (server cost? > etc.). What is the legal structure behind Arch Linux? Are we a > foundation like The Document Foundation? See, what Morten said. Basically all your donations pay for server hosting and SPI costs :-) > When a stand is organized for a particular event, does the Arch Linux > organization participate in the funding? I haven't been able to find > such an information on the Wiki. Anyone can organize a stand and promote Arch. Don't know if we ever paid for one. > Because asking for the end user to pay > for his/her on goodies is not something that can have much success, > especially when the Fedora/Mageia/RedHat/Debian community is giving > everything for free in such an event. Not entirely sure about that point. > For the record, even if I have been participating to FOSDEM since 2012 > and have adopted Arch Linux as my daily OS since that date, I haven't > been able to see an Arch Linux stand yet. The only things I heard of: > > * a small lightning talk about pacman and the way packages are being built > * some goodies informally given by the ex. Trusted User Andrea Scarpino. > > Do we maintain a list of events whose topic was Arch Linux (other than > having to dig into the arch-event mailing list)? Only arch-events as long as I have been around, other then that some meetups over the past years with fellow members from the team. > Wrt. identity, do we have strict guidelines to follow (e.g. distances, > fonts to be used along side the logo, etc.) other than the short notice > from our Logo Usage Guidelines of our trademark policy page? [3] > > I know these questions come as a burst, but I thank you already for the > answers you could give to me. > > [1] https://www.hellotux.com/arch > > [2] > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#Restricted_use_that_requires_a_trademark_license > > [3] > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy#Logo_Usage_Guidelines > > -- > William Gathoye > <[email protected]> > -- Jelle van der Waa
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