I do not think it is the right time to rush out and buy a bunch of simulators from France just yet. I would rather see the GFA invest some money in the existing simulators and attempt to get some objective and evidence based information from them.
DMcD pointed out that very different opinions were expressed about the value of simulators. I think that some parts of the gliding syllabus can be taught on simulators and the initial effort should be to identify those parts and test the outcomes both on students and instructors. That might not take very long. I had 15 minutes on the Benalla simulator during a recent Instructors refresher course. It was not very structured and we tried out a few things. That me helped to develop some interest in the role for training Maybe another seminar/s could be held at Benalla/Keepit , using instructors to work on the modules and objectives. There is also the issue of basic desk top computer sims vs realistic but expensive glider fuselage based sims. That assessment can occur in parallel. No point in spending a lot of money if a cheap unit can do a similar job. The problem of teaching bad habits at an early stage also comes in. That might be where the real flying steps in. Thanks Justin for starting this off. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Justin Couch <[email protected]> wrote: > Pretty good summary of the weekend's discussions everywhere. > > > On 21/07/2016 4:25 PM, DMcD wrote: > >> Could anyone from that club comment on how useful their simulator has >>>> been for training etc? >>>> >>> >> During the simulator seminar, two comments (at least were made…) >> >> There had been no difference in time to solo with students who used the >> sim and… >> >> A US instructor who used sim training remotely (i.e. he was often in a >> different state to the student) had got students solo within 7 >> flights. >> >> glidercfi.com >> >> Justin Crouch showed a French initiative where they had a national >> program to build and operate simulators which was very well thought >> out. However, these appear to be only just coming on line and they may >> not yet have results. >> >> All that being said, the feeling that came out of the seminar fairly >> strongly (at least to my ears) was that simulators were coming for a >> host of different reasons and we had to learn to learn with them. The >> questions appeared to be, who was doing the learning… instructors, >> students or AFIs and what type of sim would it be, VR or screen or >> both. >> >> And finally, Keepit and some other clubs are in a different position >> to less fortunate clubs from the south and north. Conditions allow >> flying almost all year round so the need for a sim may not be so >> great. >> >> That being said, it was noted at the seminar that having a sim near >> major population centres would allow it to be used in the evenings and >> at times when people did not want the drive to a club, however close. >> >> There were many persuasive arguments and considering that the cost of >> buying the French model is not far off the cost of a Blanik or two, >> it's difficult to say no, at least until some experience is had. >> >> See Justin for the facts on the French version. Simulator training >> appears to be to some extent mandatory in French courses… >> >> 4 weeks package "objectif solo" >> >> The 4 Weeks Package objective is to fully train the student for >> soloing his glider by the end of the 4 weeks. >> >> The 4 Weeks Package includes : club membership, basic FFVV >> license/insurance, glider handbook, flight logbook, up to 40 winch >> launches, 20 hours of glider flight instruction, 5 hours of glider >> ground simulator training, and 3 hours of dual control motor-glider >> flight, to totaling up to 21 hours accompanied by an instructor. >> >> D >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> > > -- > Justin Couch http://www.vlc.com.au/ > Java 3D Graphics Information http://www.j3d.org/ > LinkedIn http://au.linkedin.com/in/justincouch/ > G+ WetMorgoth > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Look through the lens, and the light breaks down into many lights. > Turn it or move it, and a new set of arrangements appears... is it > a single light or many lights, lights that one must know how to > distinguish, recognise and appreciate? Is it one light with many > frames or one frame for many lights?" -Subcomandante Marcos > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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