Gather Qantas came to party with JS3 s earlier this week after several knock backs so touch wood they will be at Benalla.
It is old story not what you know but who you know. Ian McPhee 0428847642 Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481 On 13 Dec 2016 1:53 pm, "Roger.D" <[email protected]> wrote: > The Arcus inner panels are 100 to 101 kg. Easily managed with Cof G > rigging assistant. Tips are 7 to 7.5 kg, > > Roger Druce > > On 13/12/2016 1:01 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: > > Some years ago I sent them a sketch of a 20m two seater which had a JS1 > wing with an additional meter on each wing root. > Doesn't quite work for a motorglider SL version though as the minimum wing > loading is too high. > if they do builsd a 2 seater I hope they avoid the Moby Dick type fuselage > that Schempp use. > Schleichers are much better and after a couple of rides in the ASH25 I'm > VERY impressed by that aircraft both in handling and performance. Rigging > and de rigging weren't too bad either. Schleichers got the wing break out > right too in that no part is ridiculously heavy. > The Arcus wing inner panels are 107 kg each according to one owner. > > > Mike > > > > ,At 11:32 AM 12/13/2016, you wrote: > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_035C_01D25534.9280CA60" > Content-Language: en-au > > So we are thinking the JS2 will be the 20m 2 seat flapped glider to rival > the Arcus? > > _________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > * Ross McLean * Mobile: + 61 488 270 105 <0488%20270%20105> > Telephone: + 61 7 4325 4771 <(07)%204325%204771> > > *From:* Aus-soaring [ mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Borgelt > *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:08 AM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] JS3 > > > > From the South African chat group site I linked to > > Fransw > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=42546&sid=de7b5ced5fa8b84951066ac029b5879f> > 1k poster > [image: 1k poster] > *Posts:* 1076 > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/search.php?author_id=42546&sr=posts&sid=de7b5ced5fa8b84951066ac029b5879f> > *Joined:* Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:22 pm > *Closest Airfield:* Pretoria > *Location:* Pretoria > > * Re: JS3 - New 15m glider from Jonker Sailplanes > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=183997#p1789823>* > > > - Quote > > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=1789823&sid=de7b5ced5fa8b84951066ac029b5879f> > > > Unread post > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=1789823&sid=de7b5ced5fa8b84951066ac029b5879f#p1789823>by > *Fransw* > <http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=42546&sid=de7b5ced5fa8b84951066ac029b5879f> > » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:22 pm > Fransw wrote: > Bearcat wrote:What are the key differences to a JS1 ... and what happened > to the JS2 ? > > > I'm taking a big guess here, but isnt the JS2 their new self launcher ? > Not yet released as far as I know.. > > > No, sorry the new self launcher is called the JS1 Self Launcher not the > JS2 [image: :oops:] Maybe the JS2 is still a secret.. > > > --------------------------- > > Which is what the Jonker website calls the JS self launcher --- JS 1 self > launch. The link may be tagged JS2 but they clearly call it a JS 1 self > launcher > > Mike > > > > > > > > > At 09:36 AM 12/13/2016, you wrote: > > JS2 seems to have become the JS1 self launcher, they give it away in their > early promo material / website URL's > I.e. http://www.jonkersailplanes.co.za/js2selflaun.htm > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Mike Borgelt < > [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Richard, > Here's another link to another image. http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/ > viewtopic.php?t=183997 > Interesting. Note high location of wing and obvious section change near > the root with drooped leading edge for better alignment with alpha flow. > Retractable tailwheel. Note also locations of pitot static and TE probes > on the tips of the tailplane. Not bad guys. The probes can be a lot shorter > (should be a local chord ahead of the surface to prevent interference), the > flow at the tip shouldn't be affected much and moving the probes there > prevents the disruption of laminar flow over a substantial part of the fin. > Other than that it looks like a scaled down JS 1 wing. > Wanna bet that this will be a 15/18M glider? I can't see a huge market for > a dedicated 15m competition glider nowadays but a 15/18M should sell well. > The JS1 seems optimised for 18/21M. > So what happened to the JS2? I'd say it is a JS1 with the JS3 tech > incorporated. > > > Mike > > > > > At 08:05 AM 12/13/2016, you wrote: > > Just in case anyone missed it, Jonkers flew a 15m prototype. No word yet > on whether it will be at Benalla or not. > http://www.jonkersailplanes.de/js3-the-second-one/ > Rich. > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring > instrumentation since 1978 > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: <%C2>  07 4635 5784     overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > <(07)%204635%205784> > mob: 042835 5784                : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > *Borgelt Instruments *- > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 * > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 <(07)%204635%205784> overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > <(07)%204635%205784> > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > *Borgelt Instruments* - > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 * > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing > [email protected]http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > >
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