That's quite a.... revisionist take. The Mu31 has been under development since ~2006 (that i know of anyway). The akafliegs are groups of students in their spare time with donated materials, not a factory.
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Ross McLean <[email protected]> wrote: > And yet the European manufacturers have ignored their own research for so > many years. > > It took the South African Jonkers brothers to put it into production again > with their outstanding 15m/18m JS3 Rapture. > > Now suddenly the Akaflieg have realised it was a good idea after all. > > ROSS > > ____________________________________________________________ > _____________________________ > > *Ross McLean* > > Mobile: + 61 488 270 105 <0488%20270%20105> > > Telephone: + 61 7 4325 4771 <(07)%204325%204771> > > > > *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Peter Champness > *Sent:* Thursday, 28 December 2017 5:37 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] ASG29R > > > > I attended a talk by Gerhard Waibel about 10 years ago (or maybe 15 years > ago). > > > > Among other things he talked about the wing fuselage intersection drag. > His idea was to raise the wing on a thin pylon more than 200mm above the > fuselage and then support the wing with struts! I thought that was really > reinventing the wheel. But he was right. Here we go. > > > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Mike Borgelt < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, as Bernard said there are other composite sailplanes with high wings. > Phoebus C, Std Jantar 2/3, ASW 15. > > However have another look at the Mu 31, the fuselage cross section in > particular where at around pilot shoulder height it necks in. This is more > like the Weihe, Meise (Olympia), Slingsby Sky, early Slingsby Skylarks etc. > > Mike > > > > > > > > > the At 01:08 PM 12/27/2017, you wrote: > > Not just new wings (same sections though ) but extensive changes to > fuselage also so I think a new model number is warranted. Better for sales > anyway. Wouldn't surprise me if the EB29R is further modified and becomes > the EB30. Looking at the R wing at Benalla it didn't really fit the old > root fairings on the EB29. > > Funny thing is some of the wooden gliders of the 30s, 40s and 50s had > similar wing locations and mounting of the wings on a pylon integrated into > the fuselage. Didn't have the fancy wing root design as they didn't have > the CFD codes or computers then. > > Somewhere I have a paper on the Mu31 where they say they hope to get 6 to > 10% drag reduction with the wing location. We should know soon as it won't > be hard to find a good ASW27 and do comparison flights. > > Before anyone gets too excited this is all pure speculation on my part but > if the comparison tests show they are getting what they wanted........ > > Mike > > > > > At 12:43 PM 12/27/2017, you wrote: > > Content-Language: en-US > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="_000_PS1PR04MB1004D9231BF7DE336AFA7 > 056A2070PS1PR04MB1004apcp_" > > Hearing that this will be the glider that combats the V3 & JS3; new wings > for the very popular ASG29, the R is for Racing - perhaps a play on the > intimidating EB29R? > > > > > > "ROCKS" ? > Looks like Butch had a good time in the V2 aswell. > Jim > > > > > > what does that mean?? > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > *Borgelt Instruments* - > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978* > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 <(07)%204635%205784> overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > <(07)%204635%205784> > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > *Borgelt Instruments* - > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978* > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 <(07)%204635%205784> overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > <(07)%204635%205784> > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > >
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