Yep I couldn't agree more as a computer tech I am sick to death of the
rantings of Linux/Unix fans in the last five years I have run only MS
software and by keeping up to date had no viruses or security problems a
badly set up system will give you trouble no matter what OS you use Linux
defaults to all ports open on install anyway....

David Lawley
----- Original Message -----
From: Murf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:17 AM
Subject: [aus-soaring] Can we PLEASE stick to gliding


> Thank you Ken!!! Hear bloody here.
>
> I work in the computer industry too (yes, I do work on Microsoft
> products), and the last thing I subscribe to this list for is to sift
> through Microsoft bashing, "Linux is so wonderful", "why don't you all use
> eudora and netscape", and other non-gliding related posts. Its not like I
> don't hear enough at work!
>
> Can we all please stick to gliding and accept Simons great service for
> what it is, and what it was intended for.
> I hereby declare the "Re: [aus-soaring] Work placement Work placement"
> thread CLOSED!
>
> Ben Murphy
> Treasurer - Leeton Gliding Club
> - Wishing people would get over the fact that MS is here to stay for now.
> More importantly
> - Waiting for GMK (the clubs Hornet) to come back from its form 2
> - Looking forward to the soaring season
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken
> Mitchelhill
> Sent: Monday, 22 October 2001 11:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Work placement Work placement
>
>
> Pete,
>
> I agree that all of those steps are excellent strategies over and above
> anti-virus software. I and others on this list would be "radical" enough
> even to suggest that the whole world change their operating system to
> Linux. But, if they did, the virus writers would turn more attention to
> Linux vulnerabilities (as they have started to do). I think we all know
> that this list and most others in the world will continue to be
> predominantly read by Windows email clients  running on Windows operation
> sytems.
>
> Simon's voluteer efforts on this list are very much appreciated and, if he
> does not have access to the appropriate code, I would be delighted to
> source it for him.
>
> The issue is, why play into the hands of the virus writers and allow
> attachments to be distributed by email forums when it is so easy to
> prevent?
>
> Ken
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Siddall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Work placement Work placement
>
>
> >
> > >I beg to differ. At the rate viri are spreading, it is unlikely that
> > >we
> can
> > >protect ourselves exclusively through software and any assumption
> > >that we can all keep up to date all of the time is niave.
> >
> > Anti virus software is just one method. There are plenty more things
> > you can do to protect yourself from these email viruses.
> >
> > Number one: Don't open attachments unless you're *certain* they're OK.
> > Number two: Don't use a Microsoft email program. (In some cases, it
> > will open attachments without asking you.)
> >
> > The work involved in switching to another email program is less than
> > the work involved in keeping patches uptodate on Outlook *and* virus
> > software. I use and recommend Eudora, http://www.eudora.com but there
> > are plenty of others. If you're not using Outlook, suddenly you're not
> > as vulnerable to these things.
> >
> > > .. I would strongly recommend
> > >removing any attachments that get sent to aus-soaring before they get
> > >propagated.
> >
> > Whose job is it to keep YOUR PC virus free? Simon is running this list
> > as
> a
> > volunteer effort.
> >
> > The army tries for "defence in depth". That means *everyone* does
> > their best to stop the things.
> >
> >
> >
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