Brett, 
Good luck.
Keep your club mates informed, we all wish we were doing the same I am
sure.

David Olsen

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Thanks to all for input - I've had one or two offline responses too.
Summary thus far seems to be... post 9-11 is probably a lot tougher than
most of the stories of relatively easy procedures... nowadays requires
90d notice period for reciprocal rights... only a day to work through US
based exams but with paperwork delays after that, with good news being
can fly on student certificate until the paperwork is through... go with
a full license instead of based-on-foreign.

I'll do a brief summary posting to capture the current situation after I
return.  

Cheers

Brett Kettle 

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However, as the license will stipulate that conditions and restrictions
of the Australian license apply, and as the Australian license doesn't
include CPL, the US license is a CPL restricted to being CPL for Gliding
instruction ONLY.

The equivalent here is guess what ? - The same "license" as started
with. 

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Ronald E Baker wrote:
> For what it's worth I have attached scans of my US License. This was
> issued at the Reno, Nevada FAA office. From memory it took about 45 
> minutes to get it issued. They were very helpful! Cheers, Ron Baker. 
> PS The license was free, and I was not required to take any tests.

Interesting difference in focus between the FAA and CASA:

The law in the US recognizes that US citizens have a *right* to fly, and
the regulation system is pointed towards ensuring that as people don't
hurt anyone by exercising that right.

The law in Australia seems to treat flying as a privilege which is
granted by a benevolent Government, and the only reason you're permitted
to get airborne at all is by authorization of the law.

It's probably reflective of the difference between the US attitude
towards Government and the Australian attitude towards Government, and
the way that "rights" are treated by US law.

I understand that our system is (slowly, slowly) trying to become more
US-like in areas other than airspace.  It'll be interesting to see how
the two systems compare to each other in ten years time.

Bringing it back on topic:  Cathy Conyway's US pilots license is
actually a CPL, because they recognized her instructors qualifications,
and in the US system only commercial pilots can be instructors.  It has
no expiry date.

I wonder how far she'd get if she tendered that license to CASA and said
that because ICAO states recognize each others' qualifications she
should end up with an Australian CPL? <grin>

(and no, before anyone starts, that isn't a serious question)

   - mark

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