so a K21 it is then @ how many  $'s????????????????????

 :-)

PeterS
Caboolture Gliding Club Member.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry Neumann
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 2 seat basic trainers


  G'day Robert and others,

  Now that Leigh has ventured forward with his thoughts on the matter, I feel a little 
easier about
posting my thoughts on the Balaklava K-21 history.

  Many, perhaps most of us in the Balaklava club were some what apprehensive about the 
cost of the
K21 when we anguished over purchasing our first one.     However, given the few other 
options
available at the time in respect of aircraft choices we went ahead.    The purchase of 
a second K21
just few years later to supplement the original machine shows that we were happy with 
the original
choice.

  There are few, if any regrets.   I think even today there would be little debate 
about the
suitability of the design for its intended purpose.   They look good; passengers are 
instantly
impressed.  Pupils seem to have no complaints, and those who have been trained in our 
21's have made
good progress, especially when compared to the situation we experienced in an earlier 
experiment
with the concrete swan.   Instructors are generally happy with the comfort and 
visibility from the
back, and as a bonus, those who have aerobatic inclinations can do so knowing that it 
can sustain
most attitudes with considerable margins.    Leigh proves this to us whenever he gets 
the
inclination and opportunity.   Airworthiness and inspection considerations, rated 
quite highly in
the original decision process have been proved to minimal and relatively 
straightforward.

  We find that they launch well on the winches, consistently getting heights in excess 
of anything
tried earlier.    They are sufficiently attractive in their pilot appeal to be quite 
acceptable to
pilots of all ratings in our club for casual recreational flying , and there have been 
times when
they are the only aircraft brought out for the day's activities.   They can be taken 
cross country
with reasonable confidence, and while the performance isn't savagely competitive in 
comparison with
most club singles, they can get you there and back again in good style.  Sadly 
perhaps, our club
does not challenge itself in this area as much as it perhaps might, but it's not 
because the
aircraft are not capable.   For the most part, our singles don't venture much beyond 
the immediate
horizon either.

  Spinning?  Well we can probably write a book on that.   Most people will know that 
the 'standard'
21 is difficult if not almost impossible to spin with most pilot configurations.    
However with the
spin kit now proven and approved, we find that they do all that is needed in 
demonstrating all
aspects of the manoeuvre and leave little to be desired in this area.   In my most 
recent check some
months ago, my first in the '21,  I found that it behaved well even with my weight in 
the front.
With one qualification to be mentioned later, there were no real surprises.     I 
could initiate
entry using straightforward methods, and standard recovery procedure brought about the 
desired
result with no real drama beyond my usual dislike of spins.

  I've followed the current discussion on spinning characteristics of other aircraft 
with
considerable interest.   I will confess to having been caught napping on a couple of 
occasions in
our glass singles over the years in a rough little narrow thermal, most memorably in 
our Cirrus 75
of that era.   (I've since discovered a few others who have been surprised by the same 
aircraft).

  These unexpected events were always caught at the incipient stage, and I can vouch 
here for the
requirement for adequate training for recognition of, and recovery both from 
incipients and more
advanced stages of the manoeuvre.   It must be instinctive to the degree that 
(correct) and
immediate recovery is an automatic process which one realises later has happened 
without even a
moment's hesitation or even conscious thought at the time.   The fact that all of my 
initial spin
training took place in a Mark 4 Kooka at  levels far less than permitted today was a 
great
enticement to get it right - and quickly at that  :-/

  Interestingly, the need to use a spin kit for the 21's has, in my observation, 
resulted in a
greatly increased  awareness and attentiveness at all levels of the club to the overall
considerations of weight and balance.    I also think that along with this has come a 
more
professional attitude and appreciation of other aspects of flying discipline and 
aircraft behaviour.
One somewhat unexpected secondary effect of the spin kit (the surprise mentioned 
earlier) has been a
recognition and appreciation of  the changes in aircraft handling with an altered C of 
G, something
which had escaped me in the previous 35 years of gliding.

  I don't think that you would find too many regrets  in our club about our 
decision(s) to go with
the 21's.  In gliding as in other areas, you get what you pay for.    Too often the 
temporary sense
of relief at buying the cheapest possible option fades as time goes on, and as the 
limitations and
other complications which were initially thought to be only minor in nature assert 
themselves.

  By contrast, the initial higher cost of buying a quality product which is the 
complete package
eventually justifies itself as time and experience reveal the wisdom of the investment 
in a trouble
free and totally satisfactory operational and airworthiness regime.   At the end of it 
all, the
value of that initial investment will also be retained in a higher resale value where 
the aircraft
retains both its integrity and appearance, and has lottsa hours still available for 
future
purchasers.

  The AS-K21 experience in our club leaves us completely satisfied.    Well almost - I 
still think
the Blanik is still more enjoyable to fly, but then it wouldn't be the first time I 
said something
which betrayed the possibility that I live in the past.   And I was always crafty 
enough to be
somewhere else when it was C of A time.  ;-)

  Regards,
  Terry




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