Mike Borgelt wrote:

>We live in interesting times. The fine detail of ADSB implementation 
>will indeed be fascinating.(code for GA and sport aviation gets screwed 
>- again.
>
 What exactly does this mean mike, I haven't seen any inference that anyone
is being screwed. Maybe you should attend the ABIT meetings to represent
your opinion, as the GFA and sports aviation are invited. These meetings
determine the direction and nature of new technology being introduced, and
quite frankly it is poorly attended by the ones who are criticising. Another
quick lesson on ADS-B, it's not a 1090 system, rather it's a standard for
reporting air navigational data. 1090Mhz was adopted by us as an easy way to
get it up and running, as most of the upper airspace guys have mode S
equipment and it was in most cases a software upgrade. As for the lower
airspace, the prices are coming down, equipment is getting more power
efficient and whilst not my personal choice for transmission, in our
environment it seems to work fine. ADS-B in the USA on the other hand, will
go UAT ( Universal Access Transceiver ) which is 900Mhz and Europe is
looking at VDL mode 4 ( VHF data link ).

The requirement for 2 per second transmissions may be changed for some
surveillance, as is also the case with transmitted power ( gliders, balloons
etc ). These things are being discussed currently at the ABIT meetings as
ADS-B 1090 is an evolving technology, therefore it is important that is it
is represented by qualified technical people representing the sports and
recreational community - to date I haven't seen any, but then I havn't been
to them all. * note, these meetings are not funded by the Government, we who
attend pay for this out of our own money.

The other item missing from the discussion is that ADS-b was not designed
for aircraft to aircraft crash avoidance, rather it is system designed to
replace the current SSR environment, anti collision was a bonus, as all the
aircraft squitter on a single channel and can be decoded on a receiver. If
the gliding community wants to adopt a separate anti collision system, I
would be just as interested in engineering that solution as I have been with
ADS-B provided a universal standard is adopted, which requires the current
companies that have systems to agree to release the protocol and the
manufacturers are indemnified from litigation should the system fail and
people die. ADS-B doesn't indemnify us either, but at least I can refer to
the 1,000 pages plus specifications!

On a final note and my last post, anyone who has a gripe with what is
proposed should ASAP write it down, send it to ASA and your local member,
sporting group ( GFA, SAAA etc ) and go on the records as having done
something either for or against. Alternatively, send an email to my address
below and I will hand it over at the next meeting in June, not for
discussion at the meeting, rather to make sure it gets to the right person
for his review.

Cheers

Nigel

   

Nigel Andrews

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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
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Mike Borgelt wrote:

>We live in interesting times. The fine detail of ADSB implementation 
>will indeed be fascinating.(code for GA and sport aviation gets screwed 
>- again.
>
Wow - lots of very interesting stuff in just a day - this list is really 
amazing in terms of the expertise that it has available!

I rather hope that GA & sport aviation won't be screwed -by the ADSB 
implementation. Given the ADSB realities as people see them now, what 
position should gliding be taking, what should we be arguing and with 
what data to back us up?

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Robert Hart                                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+61 (0)438 385 533
Brisbane, Australia                        http://www.hart.wattle.id.au

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