I feel I have to add my views on the comments flying around about colour vision and flying.

I am a glider pilot and a light aircraft pilot and I also fail miserably any colour vision perception test (and I was a guinea pig for the University of NSW over this enduring many of their weird tests in the name of science) and yes its a red/green issue however I have never ever had a problem with colour perception whilst flying over many years. Nor has any instructor ever commented that I had a problem. In practice none of the "experts" in this area have ever been able to show that a pilot with a colour perception issue was somehow unsafe or incapable of flying an aircraft in day or night conditions to the same level of safety as colour "normal" pilots.

CASA as it now is, years ago lost the fight to stop pilots with so called colour perception issues from flying at night thanks to the court action taken by Dr Pape. See www.aopa.com.au for his excellent paper on the history of the so called colour vision standard and his fight for fair play by CASA. The view of CASA up till then was that somehow it was unsafe for pilots who failed the colour perception test to fly at night but safe for them to fly around during the day or in thick cloud. You could be flying through the thickest cloud imaginable during day time but as soon as last light hit it was unsafe somehow? bizarre to say the least and with no scientific evidence to support their case which is why CASA lost. Dr Pape in his extensive research could find no evidence anywhere of any accident/incident being attributed to colour perception issues and this was not refuted by CASA.

The only restriction imposed by CASA now is you cannot gain an APTL (airline licence) and this is more to do with international bodies not agreeing on the standard that should apply then any problem with flying for the airlines. Pilots with colour perception issues can fly around at night, in the thickest cloud etc all in a standard aircraft without CASA or anyone else imposing any restrictions or requiring "modified" instruments.

Ironically now of course modern light aircraft are making ever increasing use of colour instrumentation, GPS etc and complete glass instrumentation is becoming more common. No manufacturer that I know of feels they have to make special versions available for pilots who fail standard colour vision tests or issue warnings or limit some pilots from flying these aircraft. You can get a Cessna 172 now with full glass instrumentation just like the airlines fly! I fly a GPS equipped C182 and its colourful screen is a joy to use not a problem for me.

To the point finally for those who have read through this, if there any problems with the readability of the displays on the FLARM it will apply to all pilots not just the ones with a colour perception issue.

And lastly its such a pity so many pilots my age were stopped from pursing an aviation career in the seventies and earlier because of the misguided actions of CASA in the past.

Mark

At 18:17 25/11/2005, you wrote:
Derek, Nigel and Dad

Eventually I'm sure that someone will come up with a system that mounts right on your glasses and gives a warning signal straight to your eyes, or generates some sort of virtual heads-up display overlayed on your view of the world.

In the meantime, LEDs are now available in white, blue, red, green and orange. So perhaps a non-standard colour set is suitable for those who are colourblind red and green ? I only observed the FLARM units briefly, and maybe if multi-colour LEDs are used this is still a problem if you needed to mount 2 or more LEDs where only one multicolour one is used in a "normal" FLARM display.

As for my $0.02 worth, although I spent 5 hours wishing I could die instead of puking over and over again while riding in the back of the DG-1000 (not sure if it was dehydration, something that I ate, or perhaps not being used to continued 2G turns in gaggles while swivelling my head to watch all the other traffic ?), I think that a FLARM repeater display in the back of a two seater would be useful so that the workload could be shared amongst both pilots.

Jason

At 03:45 PM 25/11/2005, you wrote:
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2 days: By the end of the flight the next day the power led was flashing , but the unit still registered other gliders.

Nigel, I think the unit would be improved immensely by the addition of a LCD display instead of the LED’s (and a glareshield…), plus a voice option instead of the alarm (“traffic 12 high…”)
Derek
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Derek,

How long did those AA batteries last?

Nigel






Nigel Andrews
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The general impression I got was that they worked very well.
In no way can they be regarded as a substitute for a good lookout, and this point was made very clear at the briefings. I personally never had an alarm whilst thermalling, although I understand some pilots did.

I had 2 alarms during the course of the contest: in both cases I had not seen the approaching glider first: our paths were not collision courses and avoiding action was not required. I was, however, pleased that the presence of the other glider was drawn to my attention before I had noticed it. This alone convinced me of the value of the FLARM.

Quite frankly I rarely looked at it, so I found it definitely NOT to be a distraction in the cockpit.

There are some minor issues regarding the design: the unit needs a glare shield, and perhaps a different display, as the threats are displayed on red or green LED’s, and thus present problems to colour blind pilots. I believe there are also some minor problems to be sorted out with the software

All in all, I believe that the trial was very successful

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1 Would anyone care to offer any feedback on how the Flarm trial went at Keepit?

    Did anyone find them useful?

2 Gee it's been comparatively quiet on this forum lately. Doesn't anyone have anything controversial to say?

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