Nigel
Thought you might like to see Jason's response to those offering sympathy
and advice.
Dad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason
and Jemima Armistead
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:10
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Air-sickness
Thanks to all who have suggested various air sickness remedies after
hearing my tale of woe from Lake Keepit.
I am normally NOT someone who experiences any problems with air sickness
at
all.
As a child, I always used to enjoy reading a book in the car during the
long drive from Nowra to Sydney to visit my grandparents. It was NEVER a
problem.
My parents had a yacht, and I never minded sailing on Jervis Bay in a bit
of a swell or sleeping on it overnight.
I also LOVE rollercoasters, and would wait until the water-ski show was
on
at Sea World so I could go on the corkscrew roller coaster time, after
time, after time, in succession when the queue was very short. Again,
NEVER a problem.
Regular glider flying, GA or airline flights also do not cause me ANY
problems at all. On the other hand, my poor wife felt dreadfully sick on
a
recent holiday where we flew Sydney -> Los Angeles, then LA -> Phoenix
and
Phoenix to Hartford Connecticut on the East coast of the USA. By the end
of nearly 24 hours spent in aircraft or airport terminals, she was really
suffering. And we couldn't find any ginger, etc to give her. She was
still breasfteeding our 8 month old baby so she was reluctant to take
anything that might be passed on in her milk to bub. Thankfully on the
return journey to Sydney, after consulting with a pharmacist, she took a
half strength does of dramamine and had no problems at all other than
being
a bit drowsy.
I have had only one previous air-sickness bout and that was when I was
flying solo a few years ago at Forbes. In that case, I was definitely
suffering dehydration and heat exhaustion (which I didn't realise until
later), and while I'd been drinking water, I hadn't been replacing salts
etc. that I'd been sweating out during the previous two days of 40+
temperatures. I now drink some Gatorade and that helps.
I can only put my experience at Lake Keepit down to
1. Not doing the flying (and then being too sick to even consider it)
2. Not being used to sustained high G when thermalling (rather than
occasional G when doing aeros)
3. Being more than a bit "swivel-headed" while keeping an eye on all the
other gliders in the gaggles (a first time experience for me)
4. Trying to get some good air-to-air photos at the same time (just to
add
to the workload and disorientation for me) - hopefully Anne Elliott can
use
a few for Soaring Australia to accompany an article on the comps.
5. Maybe being a bit dehydrated (though I thought I was fairly right
before
I flew)
6. Having a tummy upset coming on from some other cause and gliding was
just the last thing I needed - a few people at Keepit mentioned the day
after my flight that they had a bit of a tummy upset too.
On lower-workload two-up flights at camps or around Camden with less
agressive thermalling, I've never had any problems as a result of the
other
pilot doing the flying while I took photos, even taking a video of a
multi
chandelle and loop sequence from the back of our K-13 was not a problem.
The next time I get a chance I'll go two-up with someone at Camden and
see
what happens when we start really start thermalling steeply for long
periods.
Cheers
Jason
At 10:22 AM 30/11/2005, you wrote:
Having suffered from bad motion sickness for years, both racing sailing
boats offshore and flying, I have tried many remedies:
Ginger - helps a bit.
Pressure pads - useless
Scopoderm patches - fantastic on the boat, but expensive and you waste
them
flying - they last 3 days, but don't wear them in the shower, or drink
when
wearing them.
Kwells (or similar) - same active ingredients as the patches - work well
for
me flying - 1 tablet 1/2 hour before.
WARNING: I know of at least 1 person who they send to sleep, so test
flying
as a passenger first !
The only side effect I have is that they give me a dry mouth, so I end up
drinking more, which is probably a good thing anyway.
I have tried other medications, but for me, all have been wither useless,
or
sent me to sleep.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Newton
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 09:46
To: Jim Kelly; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Air-sickness
Jim Kelly wrote:
> Peppe took me on knowing that I may not be the most comfortable
> student to fly with (!) and was able to teach me HEAPS over a four
> hour flight (in our club DUO Discus). Much of this was to fly with
> **far** greater attention to finesse, much less turning, and when
> turning - - to turn steeply with much less speed (I was thermaling too
> fast) and hence less G's.
Eh? g is related to bank angle, not speed. If you're turning steeply
you'd
have more g, right?
(not picking. Oh, alright, maybe a little bit)
We have an instructor at AUGC who gets airsick just about every day.
Don't know how he does it. But he says when he's single-seat flying,
hanging around right on the edge of final glide, when he isn't sure
whether
he can make it back to the field, works wonders. Seems the airsickness
thing really is more mental than physical (for him), because focussing
his
attention like that makes it go away.
- mark
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