Folks, If you read the Airsrvices-Dotars advisory carefully. There are few cases of "PILOTS MUST" mentioned. Therefore the Advisory is a "you may" make a call this way. Gliders are exempt from carrying radio but MUST use it if fitted. Personally I have always made a 10km inbound on the Ctaf with a downwind call. The only difference now is that 10km is 10Nm into Ctaf or Ctaf-R When everyone works this out and is not trying to provide visual separation with the radio, I think things will settle. You can always throw the radio at the aircraft that didn't see you. There is some confusion even within CASA. No surprise here. CASA do not enforce radio procedure to my knowledge unless there is a clear safety breach.
Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Stephenson Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 7:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: So what happens if we don't do the calls? I have been told by a CASA employee that they are going to go out to airfields and watch the traffic with a hand held radio. Presumably they can 225 you. However, how can they tell on the ground at Caboolture whether there are transmissions on 118.8 from ground traffic on the other two very busy airfields (Redcliffe and Caloundra) on the same frequency stopping you from making your call? And if you are on 126.7, they have not got a hope of knowing unless they have an a/c in the air at the same time. I am very much against these extra calls because especially student pilots will not be effectively looking out while they are waiting for a space to get the calls in! If pilots do not have a boom mike and PTT they are in even more strife! Nationally RAPAC reps have protested long and loud to no avail. PeterS Peter C. Stephenson RAPAC Qld. South Convenor Gliding Qld. RAPAC (Qld.South) 07 3886 6889 Fax: 07 3886 6129 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Texler, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] RE: So what happens if we don't do the calls? > > So what happens if we don't do the calls? > > They will found out who you are. > They will confiscate your aircraft. > Break your fingers. > Repossess your house. > Pull up your flowers. > Put you on charges of sedition. > Send you to Baxter. > > > I dunno' really, how will they find out if you haven't called? > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
