Without wishing to put more fuel on the fire (I don't know what basis Mark based his comments on) BUT SSA is not like GFA, US glider pilots don't have to be members of SSA.
 
John Roakes analysis (which I linked to in an earlier email) shows a decline of 31424 to 29390 from 1992 to 2003 (estimates, see note)
 

Note:
"There has always been difficulty attempting to get factual figures from the USA. Soaring pilots do not have to be a member of the SSA.  I have established that the FAA only recorded gliding pilots with medicals over past years, their statisticians believing this to be the prime requisite for a soaring pilot.  (Incorrect).  Their statisticians have just realised their error, so for the first time we are able to record an accurate figure for USA.  We have applied a world average percentage  (+ and -) to all previous USA figures to achieve a more representative count for that country.  The new figures reveal that SSA represents less than 50% of soaring pilots in the U.S.A."
 
So while SSA membership is up since 2003 (and all strength to them), it appears US  _glider pilot numbers_ have decreased about 7% in the 10 years previous.
 
And while you ask, Australian membership, from Johns numbers, fell from 3661 to 2606 (nearly 30%!!) in the same period 92-03.  I just checked the GFA website membership list and as of tonight there are 2547, so only a comparatively small _loss_ over the last 2 years but it shows our membership is still not growing, "dynamically" or otherwise.
 
In purely pilot numbers the US figures are not good and they have lost more (in absolute terms), but our losses have been from a smaller base and have been catastrophic.
 
Regards
SWK

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Kidd
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 5:01 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The Future of Gliding Part 2

Early December Mark Newton wrote:
 
(2) gliding activity in the US is declining a hell of a lot faster than it is in Australia, so I'm not sure that it's a good idea to emulate whatever it is that they're doing. ".
 
As a member of the SSA I have just received their note that advised the following:
 

The only other big news from last week is that we closed the membership books for November and thus, now know what our 2005 member number is (drum roll please.) We ended the year with 12,740 members, up from 12,434 in 2004, which was up from 12,122 at the end of 2003. This makes the second consecutive year of membership growth for the SSA (for those that may be wondering, the membership year here at SSA is considered to be from December 1st to November 30, due to a large number of Chapters that renew in December). While this number, 12,740, is somewhat below the target established two years ago by the Strategic Planning Committee, I am nevertheless pleased from the standpoint that we have now proven that we can sustain a program of membership growth. I think there are more soaring enthusiasts out there that we can convince to join us in the SSA. If you know of any, please help us sign them up. There is strength in numbers.

 

Mark - Do you therefore mean that their membership growth is not growing as dynamically as ours? What growth do they need not to be in decline in your view ..... or are you just saying that they just aren't as active, like flying less or doing less miles?

Does anyone know what our Membership figures & trends have been for the past 2 -3 years

Regards Geoff

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The Future of Gliding Part 2

mark king wrote:

> One recent article in the magazine asks the question re is there a large
> pool of pilots out there current and possible who want to fly for
> recreational purposes as distinct from competition or long distance
> flights?

I think the population of people like that is understated.  Terry Cubley
is promoting the sports side of gliding quite a bit, but only about 2% of
GFA members seem to front-up to competitions, so I reckon his priorities
are a tad misguided there.  I think the other 98% of GFA members are
more interested in the social and recreational aspects of gliding than
its sporting side.

(frankly I couldn't care less about competitions myself, but that doesn't
mean I don't lend every possible encouragement to those in my club who do)


> What I am suggesting is that if GFA is to significantly grow the glider
> pilot market it needs to do a lot more then provide some assistance to
> clubs. I am saying it needs to be out there leading the way, doing the
> work itself on the frontline of gaining members. To do that you need
> additional funding and I suggest a front line "shopfront" to put gliding
> on the public's map of cool things to do.

The GFA isn't set up to do that.  The GFA is, more than anything else,
a regulator.  Yes, it does have other functions, but they're largely
subservient to its regulatory role.

I suspect that widespread acceptance and understanding of that reality
would end the somewhat boring and repetitive "why can't the GFA do XXX"
debates lots of people seem to have.

The way gliding in Australia is structured puts the clubs on the front-line.
To grow gliding we need the clubs to grow.  To grow the clubs we need the
club members to put in the hard yards needed to make it happen;  But lots
of the club members have been around for long enough that they feel like
they've done their bit, and the new members have spent so long being supported
by the old ones that they don't understand that there is a bit that needs
doing.

So as the early 21st century waxes-on, we've seen the OFITTHs all starting
to get to the age where they start giving-up and withdrawing, and the
people my age are too busy enjoying themselves in the air to put in hard-time
on the ground to grow the sport.

That'll change.  We're in a transition phase we've never needed to face
before.  We'll get through it eventually.

I spoke to someone from a Northern SA club over dinner in the Waikerie
pub one night -- His club has been in decline for years, and I said, "You
have a town with a population of 25,000 right next door.  Why can't
you recruit from there?  You only need a handful of new members to make
the club sustainable...!"

His response was something like, "I've done my bit.  I don't care anymore.
If the club folds that's ok with me, as long as I can still fly somewhere
I'll be happy."  And now he's a member at Waikerie, over 250km away, even
though he has a club on its last legs ten minutes drive away from his house.
That club will die (if it hasn't already).

I wonder how much of the stasis of the GFA is driven by that mindset.

> GFA could either set up one or more social enterprises to fund
> worthwhile activities to increase memberships or it could combine the 2
> eg run a centre that makes money and attracts new members.

$400,000 for an airfield-sized paddock close-ish to a city;  Another
$100,000 for structures like hangars, bar, accommodation;  $500,000 on a
shiny new fleet and an old Pawnee...

Easily a million dollars in start-up costs to do what you're proposing,
which would completely wipe out GFA's cash reserve.  And if it doesn't
make enough money to pay its employees' wages, and turns into a commercial
failure, what does it get us?

I repeat what I said in my last message to you, Mark:  If someone wants to
sink money into a business like that, there's nothing stopping them.  But
the GFA is the wrong organization to do it.  You don't see CASA running
flying schools;  You won't see GFA running a professional gliding operation
either.


> Now before anyone flames me and tells me this would send GFA broke I
> would ask that people take the blinkers off and let all the ideas flow
> freely if they are really interested in making gliding a growth sport.

You're creating a false dichotomy, Mark:  You're implying that anyone
who doesn't agree with your idea isn't interested in making gliding a
growth sport.  Which is bullshit really, isn't it?

I think you'll find that many people are interested in growing gliding,
even though they can't see your idea working (many others aren't, and
there are lots in the middle who just don't care either way).

Commercial gliding ventures have been unsuccessfully attempted at various
places around Australia already.  The fact that the landscape isn't
dotted with with in 2005 should tell you something about the quality of
their outcomes.  It's a model which simply doesn't work.  Given a choice
between a club and a professional op, Australians tend to choose the club.
That alone should tell you that your personal preferences for professional
uniformed instructors and shiny new-car-smell fleets aren't universally
(or even widely) held.

I'm not interested in hearing about how it works in the US, for two
reasons:  (1) the US doesn't have a club scene like we do, and that
changes the economic dynamics of the system in some profound ways;  and
(2) gliding activity in the US is declining a hell of a lot faster than
it is in Australia, so I'm not sure that it's a good idea to emulate
whatever it is that they're doing.

> The NFP sector in Australia and the USA is the fastest growing sector of
> the economy,

Right, you've lost me here.  I simply will not believe that statement
unless you're able to show some independent research to back it up.

Furthermore, the dot-com boom should have taught us all that "fastest growing"
isn't a useful metric.  Going from zero in the bank to one dollar in the
bank is INFINITE GROWTH! but not actually interesting.

> so how come GFA is content with no growth? We are becoming
> increasingly richer as a society and looking for places to spend our
> leisure money,

We aren't getting richer as a society.  We're buying shiny imported
consumer goods by going into debt.  Savings are at or near an all-time
low.  National credit card debt is ridiculous.  The affluence of our
country is almost totally based on the continued inflation of the
property market and artificially low interest rates, which allow
people to borrow against equity and go into ever-increasing amounts
of debt.  Wage growth has almost all been concentrated at the big-end
of town, with almost nothing over the last ten years for middle-income
earners (and the small amount of growth that's present in the stats
has largely been arrived at by redefining what we mean when we say
"Middle-Income Earner").

As a society, at a macroeconomic level we're becoming asset-rich,
cash-poor, and we're having to work ever-harder to service the interest
on the debt we've used to get there.

Any plans for the future growth of gliding (or, for that matter, the
future growth of -anything-) need to accept that reality.  Assume
near-stagnant economic growth and make plans based on that for the
forseeable future.  Anything else is financially irresponsible given
the environment we're in at the moment.

> GFA should be out there getting more then its fair share
> of the market. How come glider activity is far higher per head of
> population in some European nations despite the far poorer weather and
> ATC issues?

Because they earn Euros and spend Euros to buy their fleets.  A glider
is cheaper to acquire, cheaper to operate.  The public image is so much
nicer because the climate mitigates against horrible dust-bowl airfields
in the middle of nowhere.  The climate is more forgiving on their equipment
so it lasts longer and can be amortized over longer timescales.  Other
forms of recreation are a lot more expensive than they are here due
largely due to land costs (when you join a local soccer club your
membership dues need to finance rent on the club's pitch and clubrooms,
which are likely to be in prime city real-estate areas and
valued in the millions -- so membership won't be cheap).

In Australia we earn aussie dollars, but we have to buy gliders with
Euros then import them, which means a new glider costs about as much as a
new house, whereas in Europe it's more like the cost of a luxury car or
a boat. That sets either the baseline cost or the baseline quality of
facilities:  We can either have new gliders which are too expensive for
most people to fly (which is why commercial operations fail), or old
cheap gliders which commercial ops wouldn't want to buy but which clubs
are perfectly happy with.  Those who are financially well-endowed can
buy new gliders, but nobody except them will fly them 'til then sell them
20 years from now.

Again, these are the realities of the situation, one of the constraints
on the landscape.  There's lots of room to move, lots of space for imagination
and innovation, but if you sink money into an enterprise which ignores
these foundations you'll just lose it, and that's that.  Gliding works
as a part of a larger economy and a larger regulatory environment, and
they work together in this country to produce gliding clubs made up out
of enthusiasts rather than gliding companies made up out of professionals.

> One last point, GFA almost has a monopoly over gliding and monopolies
> generally have the following features; nil or low growth, lack of
> innovation if not outright stifling of innovation, strong resistance to
> change, inability to attract and keep the best staff, over priced
> products and services, poor customer service. Does the GFA have some or
> most of these features?

The GFA is a regulator.  You're trying to liken it to a provider of
products and services.  The analogy doesn't fit.

> I would love to see the GFA leading a dynamic and growing glider
> movement but I can't see that happening with the current strategies.
> Comments?

Leading a dynamic and growing glider movement isn't the GFA's job.
What you're suggesting is akin to expecting the South Australian
Chamber of Commerce to run a department store ("It's commerce, isn't
it?").

The engine of growth is in the clubs.  The problem gliding in Australia
faces is that many of the clubs don't care anymore, and are perfectly
happy to fold-up and die;  And the ones who aren't folding up and dying
often have unrealistic expectations about what the GFA is supposed to do
to help them grow.

Solve those problems, and gliding will start growing again.

   - mark

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