Re: Ultralights and Training WAS: [Aus-soaring] ultralight gliders

[Peter Stephenson]

With respect of ultralights and the new rules, they are expected to circuit at 500' but they are assumed to have their engine on.  The ultralight glider accident at Caboolture occurred with his engine off and retracted during a 500' circuit, spinning in whilst turning onto base, the classic killer we try to immunise glider pilots against.   This glider was the only glider on the RAA register and I have been told by a RAA member that no more are going to be accepted as another pilot had already tried and had been rejected.   PeterS ----- Original Message ----- From: Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: Ultralights and Training WAS: [Aus-soaring] ultralight gliders Minimum syllabus from AUF Ops Manual:   http://www.auf.asn.au/opsmanual/new3-04.html   Note this is a minimum. AUF (and GA) schools vary a fair bit in consistency. If you are only exposed to the GFA way of standardised training in Australia, seeing how the powered boys do it can be a bit of an eye opener. This isn't good or bad, just different! Some of the more rigorous AUF schools follow the CASA Day VFR syllabus and as the leading paragraph says, this will be the future default anyway. AUF (and GA) instructors tend to teach out of a mixture of various books and often their own notes. Compare this to GFA instructors who all use the same GFA instructors manual (once again, not better or worse, just different).   So someone with an _ultralight glider_ would get the same minimum training as any other ultralight aircraft/pilot and any extra would depend on experience/knowledge/foresight of the training instructor.   (What I guess you are thinking) AUF do not teach spin recoveries. All (I think) aircraft on the ultralight register are forbidden from aerobatics by the legislation that allows ultralights to fly at all. Consequently all ultralights are placarded "non aerobatic", even those which would be aerobatic if on the VH register. However, RAAus do have some recommendations about getting spin training in gliders/GA.   RAAus also do biennials (as per GA) but clearly that can be as complex or simple as the instructor on the day allows. Regards SWK   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:35 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] ultralight gliders Just out of interest, what are the training requirements for someone who buys or builds an ultralight glider, and flies it under the auspices of the ultralight authorities?     _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

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