Well we sure had a guy (ex Asian airline - P1 B747-400) who did not tell the
full story to the DAME who issued him a class 2 when there is no way he
should have had any sort of medical. (Another friend of mine who is chief
pilot of a smaller Asian airline was horrified/stunned that he was flying)
In a car you can pull over to the side of road but not so in the air. I
recently had a viral inner ear infection and there is no way known I could
have landed a glider when having a turn, and then 24hrs in hospital. My
DAME (also family doctor) followed up with several tests before I was back
to flying. The main advantage of a DAME is he has a few extra "tricks"
relevant to flying, but much of this could be covered by a "briefing sheet"
which a glider pilot could take along to his family doctor and I think this
would be an excellent way to go in gliding (i.e. briefing sheet).
I did have what I can only call a slack family doctor signed the form for
one passenger pilot without even having him pee in the bottle!!! - the
family doctor MUST have guidelines if they are to do our medicals. I can
assure you the next medical problem that will face us all in aviation in the
younger generation is the onset of diabetics - infact it will take over as
the medical problem of the future that smoking is today with all these old
fellows with fluid on the lungs to name just one
Two nights ago I had a long talk to an eye doctor who is also a DAME and on
the CASA committee re eyesight standards for Flying inc the RAAus licence.
I would like somebody to look at the gliding mid-airs over the last 20 years
and have a good think about the vision of these people in the accidents inc
the fatals. I am certain it could be revealing - have a think yourself.
Perhaps we in gliding need a higher vision standard than general aviation!!
eg Your side vision is about 90deg when on the ground with the doctor but
what is it a 9000ft and is it the same for all pilots of all ages. Years
ago I went into the RAAF Decompression chamber - the side vision of people
sure varied I can assure you.
We can not sit there and do nothing and blame a "medical condition" for the
accident.
That's all
Ian McPhee (skip macca304)
Box 657
Byron Bay NSW 2481 Australia
Tel +61(0)2 66847642 mob +61(0)428847642
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www.mrsoaring.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Gage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Aerokurier
Re medicals.
This is not a reduction in standards at all. It is acceptance of the UK CAA
system for the NPPL which implemented a revised BGA system for gliding
(which the BGA now use as well), which in turn was based on statistical
evidence of accidents that were attributed to medical causes.
The stats showed that pilots with a current class 2 medical were more likely
to be involved in an accident with medical causes than a GP counter signed
self declaring pilot (gliding at the time).
The main point here is that in the UK in particular, and in Europe in
general, people see the same GP all the time, who has available a complete
medical history, so with a checklist is in a far better position to judge
fitness than a medic with NO access to that history, as it the case with a
class 2 !
The reason is that you see your GP to keep you healthy / alive, so you tell
them everything that may help. You see a DAME to pass a test, so tell them
the absolute minimum and try to hide known problems to avoid failing !
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Borgelt
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:57
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Aerokurier
From Aerokurier 1/06(www.aerokurier.rotor.com)
*GLIDING*
*What has happened to the ideas about promoting gliding?* "The future of
gliding in Europe" was the central theme at the 64th German Gliding Day at
the beginning of November in Hanover. Anyone who had hoped for a spirit of
optimism sought in vain.
*Alternatives to the JAR medical
*The fitness for flying criteria have come under fire. Jürgen K. Knüppel has
summarised the current discussion and introduces the German Aero Club's
"family doctor model" for recreational pilots as an alternative to JAR-FCL
3.
In the news regarding power flying they mention that EASA are proposing a
Recreational PPL with medicals done by any GP. I gather the new JAR
standards have resulted in people who were previously regarded as fit to fly
losing their medical certification.
The problem with medical standards is that at some point they are just a
matter of opinion.
Mike
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