Jason,
Maybe so - maybe not; I know that BAL at Bankstown do have their own
recording equipment, and unlike most airport owners they also have their own
playback equipment, I have had it demonstrated to me. I also know they
record Camden CTAF(R).
SDF
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Jemima Armistead
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports
Stuart
I do not believe the records come from the CTAF/MBZ tapes at Camden. My
impression of the situation is that the guys in the tower just jot things
down as they go.
A minute or two after the tower is closed on weekends, by which time the
Camden Airports Ltd (CAL) groundsmen are also gone, all sorts of expensive
machinery e.g. Yak 52s, magically launches from Camden.
These guys are just waiting to avoid the airport charges.
Obviously after sinking a few hundred grand into their aircraft, they can't
afford the charges ... and no tapes are running at that time because
Airservices don't care as they are no longer "providing a service" when the
tower is closed.
Similarly, mid-week, when the tower is closed, our club doesn't get charged
a penny by Airservices Australia. We just have to pay CAL.
Cheers
Jason
At 05:55 PM 3/02/2006, Stuart Ferguson wrote:
>Guys,
> Most airports collect their movement data by recording the CTAF
>frequency; these tapes are sent to a company known as Avdata in Bundaberg
>Queensland who provides them with a record of movements from which they
make
>up their accounts.
>
>Over the years there have been records of B737, B767 etc into all sorts of
>locations we know they do not go. There is also a story of a Red Beech
Baron
>in Qld years ago who would go by the call sign "The Red Baron".
>
>Quite simply I do not believe Camden would have anyone sitting there
>recording arrivals and departures - the economics simply do not work.
>More then likely they have obtained this record from a recording device and
>someone has used your call sign - what a simple way of avoiding charges.
>
>It is unfortunate you now have to prove your innocence.
>
>SDF
>
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>Armistead
>Sent: Friday, 3 February 2006 5:10 PM
>To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports
>
>Make it a big bill. I'm sure your time is very valuable.
>
>Allan Armistead
>ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911
>PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia
>
>"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
>turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
>Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
>
>
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>Cath
>Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:20
>To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports
>
>
>Camden claim that they have someone driving around, sighting and collecting
>aircraft registrations - so this person needs glasses. They couldn't tell
>me what type of aircraft they had recorded.
>On contacting them they refuse to accept my explanation without "proof."
>Despite the glider being registered to me in Melbourne. So now I'll send
>them a copy of the MR showing the glider was having it's Form 2 when they
>claim I was there, and I'll send them a bill for the effort :-)
>
>Dave L
>
> >The airports collect their
> > landing fees through the company Avdata who record all the circuit radio
> > calls and bill based on that. It can be people using false call signs to
> > avoid charges or simple mistranscriptions by Avdata.
>
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