Yep, one thing so far has saved us and that was the work of Bob Hall and Henk Meertens done at Canberra to secure a "protection letter" from Nick Minchin (Minister for Finance) for not pricing Gliding off the airfield during the sale. We formed a group CAPCOM to work with/against the owners when they came on and won one battle where we were all being charged a ground fee just to take a glider out of a hangar to wash it. That is now gone. Our latest battle is on again with a large rent increase being imposed and backdated to April last year, all within rights of our really fantastic leases for hangar and club houses.
It is a constant battle. /daveb |"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground, and....miss." | --- Ford Prefect | Dave Boulter ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Allan Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:49 +1100 Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports > We (Canberra) had an occasion some years ago where we were > aerotowing a glider from our site at Bunyan to Temora (I think it > was) and really strong headwinds en route necessitated the tow be > abandoned and the combination divert to Canberra airport. I wasn't > involved personally so others can probably relate the tale better > than me, but it did raise a few eyebrows in the control tower and > IIRC included initial requests like the combination to land while > still attached and taxi clear of the runway! In the end it all > worked out OK, but I couldn't imagine it ever being normal practice. > > Apart from which, now the airport is "privatised", I hate to think > what our landing fees would be!!! I think Southern Cross have had a > few interesting experiences negotiating fees with the "private" > owners of Camden Airport. > > Fortunately we are in the excellent situation of owning our own bit > of ground. > > Allan Armistead > ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911 > PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia > > "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your > eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always > will be." Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 8:03 To: > Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: > [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports > > Yes, it is possible to do it differently. > When I visited the Akafleig Braunschweig I found that their workshop > and hangar are in one corner (albeit out of the way) of the Braunschweig > airport. The Akafleig aerotow, and I think, winch off the aerodrome, > but not off the runways. The stuff that boggled me though, was that > Braunschweig is the capital of Lower Saxony, a state of between 1 > and 2 million people, so very comparable to, say, Adelaide. The > airport has a control tower on top of a big two storey terminal > building (including restaurant). The offices of the German > airministry (LBA) and also their equivalent of our ATSB are on the > edge of the aerodrome. I don't know what the actual movement numbers > were but I was told they did include big jets. Very comparable to > the smaller Australian capital city airports. > > Regards > SWK > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Leigh Bunting > > > > >Imagine doing this at Tullamarine or one of the other major > >airports in Australia. The regulators and security people > >would have a right royal hissy-fit. But it happens elsewhere - > >but that's in the northern hemisphere. Things like this and > >high-tow just don't work in the southern hemisphere, do they ........ > > > >Below is part of a communication with a German glider pilot, I've been > >having: > > > >"We fly at the internatiol Airport Münster-Osnabrück (FMO) > >because we were there first, and a part of this is oure own > >ground. In the time the Airport was build (growing from the > >airfield of the "Luftfahrtvereinigung Greven") they made an > >agreement that if there whould be to many jet traffic the > >airportmanagement has to find and to give us a new airfield > >for oure own, ready and licensed for sports flying. > > > >They didn´t find one......." > > > >-- > >Leigh Bunting > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
