Oh, and as the one who inadvertently kicked off this topic, I should say
that at my first club (Sunraysia) I was fortunate to be taught by two very
good female instructors, one of whom (Mardi Gething) had been a ferry pilot
during WWII and had all sorts of wonderful aircraft in her logbooks, that
most of us can only dream about. My second club (RANGA) likewise had two
female instructors and my current club (Canberra) by some coincidence also
has two currently active female instructors. In my view, gliding is very
much an "we are all the same in the cockpit" type of sport, the pity is
there aren't a lot more young (and old) women involved.

I never ran across any female instructors while doing my power though.

And perhaps I should relate the tale of the time I was flying Brisbane back
to Canberra one evening on a BAe146 and, climbing out of Brisbane, the
captain (as they are inclined to do) welcomed us all aboard and introduced
herself and her female first officer. The cabin crew was also all female.
You could have heard a pin drop in the cabin as it sunk in what had come
over the PA. I sat back and enjoyed the flight, which needless to say was
entirely routine, followed by as smooth a landing in Canberra as you could
possibly have wished for.



Allan Armistead
ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519


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  Thanks to all those who have responded to this.  And I would almost
apologise (but not quite) for throwing in a comment as baited as that, but I
am always interested to see how young women are perceived amongst the
gliding masses.



  RE age relating to experience.  There are quite a few people learning to
fly after retirement and enough comparatively experienced juniors around the
world to dispute that.  Logbooks are probably a bit more reliable than what
state your hair is in.


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  Was it 4WD, AWD or Hybrid :-)



  It is critical. :-)








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    Age relates to low experience.



    Gender has no relevance but that's how the story was relayed to me.



    I was nearly run off the road on Saturday by a person in a 4WD
(overtaking across a double line). It all happened so quick and I was too
busy avoiding the head on to notice the sex of the driver, or I would
probably be saying "a guy" or "a girl" in relaying the story. I expect if I
post the details on a newsgroup some sensitive 4WD driver will ask me "what
is the relevance of the type of vehicle" and it's not relevant (any more
than the sex of the driver is relevant) but it's a fact of the story.



    Allan Armistead
    ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
    PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

    "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
    Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519

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      Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 15:55
      To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
      Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...

      Overall point of the comment taken, but I missed the relevance of the
age and gender of the power instructor.




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      To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
      Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...



      While I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to have
been taught spins and recovery as part of my gliding training. If only to
underline the fact that I don't want to put myself in a situation where I
accidentally happen upon one.



      I was really surprised when I subsequently did my power training to
find that we did nothing beyond basic stalls and recovery.



      Stuart Ferguson said (talking about power aircraft and spins);



      "I would suggest that many of today's instructors would have been
taught by people who had not been fully taught how to spin and in turn pass
this onto their students some of whom will become the next generation of
instructors"



      Reminds me of the story of one of our very experienced (gliding)
instructors doing his power licence and the young lady instructor "teaching"
him forced landings. They had a bit of a difference of opinion on how best
to select a suitable field and set up the circuit. I believe the
conversation went something along these lines...



      He "How many real forced landings have you actually done?"



      She "None"



      He "Well I've done dozens and this is how I do them..."



      Allan Armistead
      ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
      PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

      "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
      Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519



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