I will tell you one thing an hour meter and air switch is the best way bar none 
to do a maintance release. In old days at Keepit I would land old Berg after 
last flight and before the tail was turned around I could have the hours 
written up  (I would guess the no of launches and was usually correct +/- one 
flight and some days gliders were doing 20 to 35 flights) -  The crap these 
days of entering things into computer and maybe 1 hour later the data is 
available for writing up the MR -  Hour meter/air switch is the only way to go 
for Maintance Release  
Ian M  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: erich wittstock 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring Admin Stuff


  Dear "boring club members"
  I thought that I am the only one thinking about this.... but no!
  Now, here is a real challenge:
  There are clubs out there that are using commercial accounting packages i.e. 
Quick(en)Books, MYOB etc. 
  How do those clubs take care of pilot's logs and glider logs?

  We are required to keep track of flight movements as per MOSP:
  14.1.11 Keeping of records.
  All clubs must compile and keep such logbooks, flight records and time sheets 
as 
  will enable an accurate record of the club's flying operations to be 
maintained.
  These records must be made available to the RTO/Ops or the CTO/Ops on
  request.

  There are a few of free-ware versions of gliding club software packages 
available - unfortunately most of them are in German - which makes them 
useless. 

  Respectable clubs are entering data on-the-go on a laptop on the flight line 
- a simple double click enters take/off and landing time. Pilot's names / 
glider rego's etc are selected from drop down menus... 

  Could our QLD gliding branch or even the GFA come up with a decent program / 
plug-in (QB, MYOB) / spreadsheet / database for everyone to use.
  Even the tax department is providing a free version which is usable. 

  The "Gliding Club Computer Program" is quite ok but a bit dated.

  I have seen a prototype of the on-line booking system. It looks like to me 
that we all need a record system for log books, an accounting system and maybe 
on-line booking system. Would it be effective to do this as a combined effort 
for every club in Australia? That would free up more members to recruit and 
keep member retention up. 

  If Ian Perkins should read this.... how about it?

  all the best
  Erich
  (a useless treasurer...)




  On 6/19/07, Brian and Karen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    At Boonah we have been using the "Gliding Club Computer Program" for some 
time to track our members flying accounts.

    The program runs OK, but the members accounts reports are very poorly 
setout and only available as a text file.

    We were going to write a new program based around Access or Excel, that 
would allow use to upload logs/accounts to our website.

    Before we over commit ourselves to this involved and frustrating task, has 
anyone out there already done this..?



    Regards

    Brian Gilby

    Boonah Club





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