Hi all, My apologies Matt, I was referring to Wayne's post about the GCV in respect to this issue (as per quote in original post), should have changed the subject line.
So from your post I gather there is no entry or accommodation charge's for your Narromine week comp then? It is very generous to hold such an event at 0 benefit to your club and is most commendable. Pity others don't emulate you. In that case I would agree that making the submission mandatory certainly is fair enough, however in that case perhaps having the comp scorer do the OLC entries would ensure more submission's of the igc files rather than leaving it to the individual pilots? (sorry scorer's, more work!(-:). This could be a solution, making OLC entry an opt-out option for entrants in all comps. Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Gage Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 2:42 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] OLC But you miss the point completely here Dave. This is NOT an imposition on the Narromine Members ! Narromine during cup week has about 2 members actually flying. The rest who are present are GIVING their time to ensure that all the visitors (60+ of them), who pay NOTHING to use the facilities have a good time. What they are asking in return is that the visitors contribute something back that doesn't actually cost them anything except a bit of time. People now know months before hand whet is expected of them. They can choose to go, or not if they don't like this. On 04/07/2007, at 14:36 , Dave wrote: > Hi all > > "a big loss to potential customers from overseas concerning my own > club > (GCV) recently." > > There is no reason to force anyone to promote gliding(Via the OLC), > especially when as stated such promotion is only to benefit commercial > gliding club operations ability to attract overseas customers.(That > was the > reason stated above wasn't it?)Representing this as promoting > gliding is > disingenuous to say the least. > > I am happy to promote gliding in fact for many years I sat on the > WGC stand > at the Royal show in SA lifting kids in and out of gliders. That is > promoting gliding not acting as a publicity agent for commercial > purposes. > See the difference? If any club wants to attract overseas visitor's > they > should pay for their own advertising, not try and force their > members to do > it for them. I think if such an unjust fine system was introduced I > for one > would not pay. Hopefully sensible club management will reject such > a silly > concept. > > How exactly will attracting overseas pilots help increase our local > membership again? Answer: It wont. > > All things must pass and it may well be gliding is one of them, > particularly > in its current form and ideas such as this will only hasten the rising > dissatisfaction with many elements of the current system. > > By all means if you wish to be a part of the OLC, why should you be > allowed > to fine others if they don't want to? > > So, let's see if you can find another spin to justify this eh? > > Regards > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne > Carter > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] OLC > > Ahhh jeez, done it again! > > THIS is the OLC download information link > > http://www.gfa.org.au/Docs/sport/OLC_downloads.pdf > > sorry all > > Let me further explain my position and thinking. > > As a small business owner I know success of any business relies > primarily on SALES. > Gliding, as a sport and like all other sports nowadays must be run > as a > business - those of you who cannot understand that simply never will, > sorry, and those who do are probably business owners like myself. > Think of any sport you enjoy for yourself or as an observer and > check it > from a business perspective. All the big ones are big business, all > the > little ones are basically, like ourselves in gliding, on the way out. > As polarisingly simple and harsh as that sounds, it is. > > The problem is, we have been doing what we are currently doing and we > are going downhill. > The answer is, we have to change. > Can I make it simpler than that? > > This is not personal, its a worldwide gliding fact and MUST be > addressed > before we are all old pilots in old ships, no upcoming kids, no > faster, > sleeker glass. > Understand yet? > > We either take the bitter pill (c'mon, its a small "fine" towards our > future) or we will get sick and die. > > The OLC should NOT be viewed just as a competition, although that is > its original probable intention. > The OLC will be able to give us far, far more than just flight > comparison and logging of data. > It can be used as a sales tool -thats why all the bigger clubs and > commercial operations are so well represented there. > > Honestly, if you were on final glide and the PDA showed impact > prior to > the airstrip, would you sit there and wait or would you do something? > Gliding, as a sport, is on final glide and we DONT have enough > altitude- > thats my analogy. > > Hi to all, > > > Wayne Carter > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
