Hi All,

First I would like to thank Simon Hackett and Internode for the great 
contibution thay have made and continue to make to our sport.

John ashford wrote:
 
> I agree.  The comment "overly conservative people" could translate into
> "those that take themselves too seriously".  I have seen many times
> where new starters have been  discouraged by this very thing.

Quite right John, I wish I had put it that way originally!

My apologies for the awful spelling in my last post, my only defence is I am at 
home this week with a bad chest infection and my brain doesn't seem to be 
working properly (Some might say situation normal !!!)   (-: 

The poster who mentioned the RAA is right on the mark, they are doing something 
right that we are not- allowing pilots to be responsible for their own actions,
gliding is a miniature nanny state in the way pilots are treated.

 It seems bizzare that one needs at least 200 hours of gliding to have the same 
rights as someone who has 50 hours on a ppl. When prospective members see the 
amount of money that needs to be spent to get to Independant ops level 2, say 
200 hours @ a minimum of $35 p/h if one is VERY lucky ($7000), say 100 launches 
([EMAIL PROTECTED] $700, areotow $3,000MIN) they can afford to get a PPL  for 
that kind of money, and be treated like an adult. I dont know the cost 
equivalent at RAA clubs, but I am willing to bet its a LOT less than the 
figures above. Even at 50 hours flying a year this will take 4 %$@&ing 
years!!!!! in the current system, a PPL can be done in less than 6 months!

The tying of GFA membership to club membership is also an onerous load-I would 
like to visit and fly at any club, but am forced to be a member at one  club 
even if I don't ever fly there! The thought has crossed my mind that the club 
structure is too restrictive, and that perhaps direct membership of state 
bodies that allow on to fly at any club in that state without additional 
charge-just tossing out ideas here.

Whilst the concept of XC coaching will help member retention, the high cost of 
XC flights for example a 300KM flight will cost around $200 at least at most 
clubs.
When this kind of cost becomes clear to the freshly solo pilot of course they 
look at other cheaper options. 

Another issue is club charges, $40+ per hour for 20 year old 2 seaters that 
have paid for themselves several times over seems crazy to me.

 As a single disability pensioner I constantly struggle to afford to keep 
gliding, and have in the last few years to pay for my son's training, I have 
had to sacrifce all other social activities and outings to be able to fly. Of 
course I love flying so am willing to make that sacrifice, but I am betting 
most family breadwinners (Struggled to find a non sexist term there) cannot 
afford that kind of commitment. 

Can we overcome the inertia of the current system before it hits the wall?

Regards to all.

Dave L

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