That would be a pity. 'Bashing' human prejudices and bad media practices, or 
even stating the bleeding obvious in the manner of criticising religious 
bigotry and fanaticism would seem to me to have some point, and to be relevant 
to all of us. Whats the point in continuing to dredge around for bad jokes 
about a perfectly good design of glider that has contributed hugely to the 
gliding movement worldwide and in Australia in particular. BORING! A positive 
contribution would be more useful...and could very easily be more humorous, if 
thats what you want!  
 


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:38:05 +0000
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 66, Issue 47




 Please lets get back to "Blanik bashing". At least it more closely related to 
soaring ( i believe part of the title of this digest)
 
By the way ian  , flew the M200 (GTG) a few weeks ago, very sweet. Will write 
something for VT soon
 
cheers
 
 
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> From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The power of the media, was RE: The power
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> At 04:05 PM 27/03/2009, you wrote:
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> 
> While Robert scuba dives through Cairo, the rest of you who may be 
> interested can search for "islamic terror attacks", "islam 
> expansion", "Battle of Tours", " Lepanto"(and read the poem) ,"battle 
> of Vienna 1683", "Barbary coast pirates". I'm sure you will be surprised.
> 
> By the way Robert, nowhere in my post did I class "all people of the 
> Islamic faiths as terrorists". You are obviously reading 
> comprehension challenged. You also left out my reference to ASIC 
> cards. Nice. Care to tell us why we need them?
> 
> The point I was making was in response to Gavin Wrigley's post, that 
> making judgements after due consideration of the facts is not "prejudice".
> 
> Ever consider how if Islam had won at Tours or Lepanto or Vienna 
> there might well have been no renaissance or Western civilization?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Mike Borgelt wrote:
> >>
> >>I'd be just as pissed off if the Captain started using his rosary 
> >>beads but judgements based on verifiable facts such as that we in 
> >>the West are currently under attack by a 1400 year old political 
> >>movement masquerading as a religion, whose adherents want us dead 
> >>or converted to their totalitarian cause and are the cause of much 
> >>strife in the world today as they have been for the last 1400 years 
> >>are not "prejudice".
> >That, I'm afraid, is some of the most bigotted anti-Islamic speech I 
> >have come across. In much the same way that the beliefs on the 
> >extremist fringes of the Christian religion have only a passing 
> >acquaintanceship with the core teachings of Christ, those of the 
> >extreme Islamists also bear little resemblance to the core of Islam.
> >
> >Furthermore, when we in the "educated west" were wallowing in the 
> >dark ages, conducting purges against our fellow Christians (take a 
> >look at the Abigensian "Crusade" as an example), burning 
> >'proscribed' books reporting unacceptable truths and also people for 
> >investigating the real world around them, the Islamic civilisation 
> >was keeping alive the flame of learning and scientific inquiry.
> >
> >Without the preservation and extension of knowledge undertaken by 
> >the Islamic civilisations around the mediterranean, our Renaissance 
> >would have had a hard time getting started.
> >
> >I do not condone and will not accept the behaviour of the terrorists 
> >- but neither will I accept sweeping generalisations that attempt to 
> >class all people of the Islamic faiths as terrorists.
> >
> >I hasten to add I am not an adherent of either religion.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Robert 
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