Regarding non secure loggers, yet another great decision from the people who 
thought a PW 5 based  world class would be popular.

Really, the IGC/FAI didnt make a decision at all.

Seemingly, like the GFA, the IGC/FAI is not there to do things, they are there 
to explain why things cant be done. )-:

Dave L


> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:05:22 +1100
> From: "Tim Shirley" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Free Distance??
> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
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> Hi David,
> 
>  
> 
> Firstly I suggest you contact Beryl Hartley, the GFA's FAI Certificates
> Officer, for an explanation of what is meant by this definition.  You can
> contact Beryl at [email protected].  My take on it though, is that you
> can declare up to three waypoints but don't necessarily have to reach them,
> if you land say before one or more is reached.  Your free distance is then
> measured around the points you actually did make.
> 
>  
> 
> In regard to your other point.  As of October 1st this year, the FAI
> introduced a new version of the Sporting Code which removed cameras as a
> means of verification.  They replaced cameras with a concept called a
> Position Recorder, which is in essence an off-the-shelf GPS recorder
> authorised by the local authority - in our case of course, the GFA.  This
> has required the development of some processes to approve these things,
> which are now in place and (since I'm the guy that got the job) I'm
> currently working on getting the first products -  OzFlarms and miniOZ -
> approved in this category.  Other devices such as Garmins could also be
> approved I expect, but because of the huge variety of off the shelf products
> out there I will have to consider them on application.  
> 
>  
> 
> Bear in mind also that these "Position Recorders" are intended to replace
> only cameras, and that in most cases a calibrated barograph will still be
> needed.
> 
>  
> 
> Existing secure loggers such as Cambridge, EW, Colibri etc are still valid -
> but nothing else at this moment.  
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone wants to know more, or ask about a particular device, contact me
> off list on [email protected].
> 
>  
> 
> Please don't start an email war on this one - what's done is done.  These
> are FAI's rules, not GFA's, and we are just one voice in 50 when they are
> worked out.  For better or worse, we are stuck with them and trying to make
> the best of it.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
>  
> 
> Tim
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David and
> Justine Olsen
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 08:17
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Free Distance??
> 
>  
> 
> I am a little confused by the free distance definition below-
> 
>  
> 
> 2. A "Free Distance Flight" from the Sporting Code is "A flight measured for
> 
>    distance from a departure point via not more than three previously
> declared
> 
> turn points, to a landing place not necessarily specified before take-off.
> 
> The TP's must be at least 10km apart, and they may be claimed once, in any
> 
> sequence, or not at all".  You need a barograph, and photo's.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Am I correct in saying-  I can fly anywhere I like, as long as I have
> declared three turn-points which I don't even need to use, The turn points
> can be any distance greater than 10k apart meaning that if I flew for
> instance a triangle around them, the total distance would be just over 30k,
> so I obviously would need to make the distance up by flying to other
> undeclared turn-points. I would need to photograph these turn-points and
> name them in the claim, or use an appropriate approved datalogger. Is this
> correct?
> 
>  
> 
> David
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