Reminds me of:

"You take your boots off before you come into the house." :-)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Druce 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Winch vers. Aerotow


  Gary
  A quick reply re the acceptance of the two take-off strips is:
  The strips are a success.  However, really as I see it, it is best to suspend 
judgement for a year or two.  Time will tell.  For example, how will they stand 
up in the summer heat to ning-nongs turning a glider on the spot prior to 
climbing on board for a launch?  Main wheels can screw the bitumen up in this 
manouvre!

  The earth works which created the strips also left significant areas at the 
sides disturbed due to drainage shaping of the ground, and this combined with 
the stones broomed (vacuum sweeping was reserved for other areas of established 
seal subject to resealing - not to be used on new seal) off the strips after 
the sealing process means that we have a fair bit of small loose stone besides 
the strips and little grass.  Bit by bit some of this stone gets back on the 
strips such that we will have to broom sweep again from time to time using our 
geriatric kit from Departmental days.  For example, you need the tuggies to 
observe not crossing the strip when taxiing, if they can avoid it, so that the 
tug doesn't blow stones back onto the strip.

  We also have here a K13 and Zephyrus with nose skids.  They have to launch 
beside the take-off strip and move onto it late in the ground roll after 
elevator authority is gained.  At this point this seems to work OK.  If we did 
not do that we would, in my view, see significant damage.  The first time you 
establish a bitumen seal it looks solid but really there is not all that much 
there!

  Regards

  Roger Druce



  On 26/04/2010 8:22 PM, Gary Stevenson wrote: 
    John,
    Now that is REALLY weird ; a video comparison between winch launching and 
aerotow! ???? I find it hard to believe that you missed the obligatory 
childhood lecture (often repeated through the years),  on comparisons: Apples 
with apples; oranges with oranges. The aerotow box was a total waste of time, 
and a major distraction.
    Nice video of the winch launch though, and good footage of the changed 
topography of the BM airfield. 
    Did you do any soaring off this or any other launch on the day?
    What is the consensus of the users on the success (or otherwise) of the 
recently installed launch strips?
    Cheers,
    Gary


    -- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Parncutt 
      To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 
      Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:46 PM
      Subject: [Aus-soaring] Winch vers. Aerotow


      Hi All,



      Thought you might be interested to see this comparison between winch 
launching and Aerotow.

      Greig Wanless and Roger Druce on Aerotow with Axel Allgaier and myself on 
Geelong G/C winch.

      A great day for winching on Saturday with about 15 -20 knots of wind 
straight down 27 we were consistently getting 2000ft AGL.



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky1leolUCAY







      Cheers,







      John



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