Yes indeed, large R/C models might have ADSB fitted. As will UAVs. There is a strong push to operate UAV's in Class G airspace and a collision avoidance system will be necessary. This is currently difficult to do with uncooperative targets(ones not fitted with ADSB OUT) but several different approaches are being worked on.

Obviously UAV operators will be in favour of universal ADSB OUT fitment.

I did find a group in Northern California who were operating large autonomous sailplane models and flying them cross country. I think they were doing up to 50 mile out and returns a couple of years ago. Just for fun, but this could also extend the range and loiter time of a UAV. The rest of the R/C models are flown within line of sight of an operator on the ground. Being limited to an area say within 2NM and a couple of thousand feet is no great hardship for them and wouldn't be a problem for other airspace users, most of whom would have ADSB IN as well as OUT as the area would show up on the traffic display.

Those opposing ADSB for sailplanes may like to ask themselves if they want their activity confined to reservations.

I agree that ADSB is a gold plated solution for recreational aircraft with capability orders of magnitude more than is required however it isn't all that expensive and the full implementation date is 2020. Looking at Keep Soaring I'd say not many of us will have to worry about this.

In the meantime if you are going to fit a transponder make sure it is a Mode S/ADSB capable one. For now the Mode A/C will ensure your visibility to regional airliners on their TCAS. It would only take one accident or near miss between a Jetstar A320, Virgin 737 or a Rex Saab 340 (fitted with ADSB OUT and IN) and a glider without these for all hell to break loose.

The power drain argument is nonsense as is the weight. A Trig TT21 weighs less than 500 grams including internal altitude encoder and a suitable battery to run it for 9 hours is 550 grams.(3A-H NiMH) All you need for ADSB OUT is a suitable GPS receiver. If PowerFlarm uses a TSO'd GPS that's all you then need for ADSB OUT and ADSB IN. The mickey mouse low power, licence free band Flarm rf link can be left out too. You'll be able to see traffic out to the horizon. The power drain thing has been demonstrated to be nonsense in New Zealand of course where gliders are fitted with transponders. Pretty dumb making this argument at high official levels when you can be shown to be wrong by demonstration.

As glider pilots seem happy to operate with traffic warning systems, even mandatory ones, it is hypocritical to oppose them for essentially all traffic. CASA knows what we are on this, we're just haggling about the price.

There's one other benefit of ADSB OUT - real time tracking in contests and even for fun racing on weekends.

Another might be that we could argue for reduced volume of airspace requiring 3rd party intervention (ATC) or clearances. You might even argue that we could legally climb up inside a fat cumulus and pop out a few thousand feet above cloudbase now and again or even be legally able to climb to cloudbase.

If you decide to reply to CASA on this issue you might like to take all this into account.

Mike




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