At 04:16 PM 7/08/2011, you wrote:

1. Our understanding of the aerodynamics within the "usual" gliding envelope
in which gliders operate, has increased immensely. Research on the
aerodynamics of a wing section (as always, carried out by dedicated
enthusiasts), has led to a huge performance increase, in a relatively short
period of time.
A state of the art glider design of "today " is certainly of substantially
better aerodynamic design than one that is say 15 years old. It is highly
likely that it better than one that was designed 5 years ago.

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I'm going to disagree with this. The big breakthrough was the tailoring of airfoil sections instead of designing out of the Stuttgart Profilkatalog.

The first production glider to do this was the Ventus A, Nimbus 3 (Ventus A wings as outer panels) followed by the LS4. The LS4 was a result of an experiment by Streifeneder when it was noticed that an LS3 with the flaps fixed went better than any existing Standard Class glider - mainly Cirrus and Hornet at the time. In the US the ASW20 with flaps fixed to zero was winning all the Standard Class contests also. I think they banned them in 1981. So it was a no brainer to design a better Standard Class glider. The 15M class was more difficult as the ASW20 was very good and here Holighaus, Althaus and some others did a lot of work on theoretical wing section design and verified with wind tunnel and flight test. The A model Ventus has 4 sections on the wing optimised over the span. This is all easier nowadays as we all have supercomputers on our desktop and the MIT XFOIL program (free!) has been verified by experiment at all Reynolds numbers and the limitations are known. The JS1 was designed this way The other breakthrough was the ability to build what was designed and there have been significant developments in the molds for the wings. The Discus was the first of these gliders(1983) and the LS6 came out around the same time. It only took LS 10 years to realise what they had done and fly an LS6 with the flaps fixed and realise it was better than a Discus 1. They should have known this much earlier as they had the DLR polar which showed the flaps on the LS6 didn't do much! Note this was all a long time ago. The current ASG29 is a ASW27 with new stretched outer wings. The ASW27 was designed in 1991 - 20 years ago! Ventus 2 came out in 1995. The ASH31Mi is a ASH26E with fuel injected engine and a 2.5 meter section of the wing in the middle designed to match the inner ASH26 wing to the outer wings of the ASG29. Gary Ittner and Graham Parker will tell you that Ventus C with A fuselage and winglets is as good as an ASW27.
Progress!!!


Here I am talking about the design only - as opposed to design and production. Some
designs may be absolutely revolutionary, but for one reason or another the
glider itself may never gets into real serial production - think Diana 1, (5 or 6 produced), and
maybe (more so) Diana 2.
If I heard Todd Clark (the Australian Agent for the
JS1), rightly, last year at Dalby he said that the estimated manhours to get the JS1 Revelation into production was 75,000 hours! {Todd please confirm!} All these, and the actual set up and production costs have to be met before a single glider rolls off the line! So we have a design phase, and a production phase. If the actual elapsed time (as opposed
to manhours), from design to production can be minimized, then the company
doing this best will have an advantage over its competitors.


The JS1 is an amazing effort and clearly as good as the ASG29/V2. They may like to think about pulling some carbon out of the wing. You don't really need a glider capable of breaking the test rig at 15 g (8 g is all that is required) and then being able to put those wings on the prototype and go flying. Nor do you need 90 Kg wing panels.





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2. There has been a significant advance (over a relatively short period of
time), in the development of instrumentation that allows the pilot to know (in real time), what is happening in the airmass he is flying in, and what to do about it. Someone like Mike Borgelt might like to make comment here, and gaze into the crystal ball!

Nope again. I flew our first pressure transducer vario in 1981 and Richard Ball and the Swiss Pirol guys did it some years before. I'd been looking at it since the National Semiconductor Pressure Transducer Handbook came out in 1974 but the early transducers weren't very good.

Really we're still doing it the same way. Displays and audios have been refined and software driven instruments and stepper motor driven pointers make things like the expanded and non linear scale on the B700 and B800 easy to do (they work really well too) and audios are more informative - even to two speakers to provide direction information. The pressure transducer/Irving type TE probe combination produce instruments with very high performance/simplicity ratio but ALL present total energy instruments are subject to the effect of horizontal gusts. If you haven't been told about them read the article on our website. The problem has been known about for a long time - I've seen it in a Soaring Symposium Proceedings dated 1969 but it is difficult to solve at a cost that any glider pilot will pay. I hate to think what a tactical grade Inertial Nav platform costs. These gusts introduce "noise" into the vario signal of about the same time period and magnitude as the vario signals(vertical air motion) that we want. We do, however, have some good ideas on this and are designing the hardware and software for a horizontal gust compensator. In my opinion this is the last interesting problem in soaring instrumentation. I'm not a fan of distant thermal indication.

There are some advances to be made in display and interface technology. Current computers require ridiculous amounts of pilot interaction and interpretation of the display. In an era of moving maps people are STILL missing turnpoint sectors. There is scope for simplification. It is easy to design something complicated, hard to make it simple for the end user. We're trying with the averager/integrator comparison on the B700/B800.

Contest rules people could help. The AAT was a brilliant, nearly successful, attempt at an uncomputable problem. Right away lots more display capability, interpretation and interaction is required. Multiple startpoints likewise.

Always remember the aim is to have fun flying gliders, not to operate computers in glider cockpits while trying to fly.

Mike





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