Mike,
Who's to say that the glider wasn't moving away, the aspect change may have been insignificant from an Alarmist not Outside Pilot, whilst the glider pilot may have loaded up in a turn to move out the way. Reads way better for the uninformed from the 757's perspective. What is truly alarming, and nauseating, is that the PF/Captain/Commander/PIC made a conscious decision to put his aircraft and "Fare paying" pax into uncontrolled E Class airspace, where see and avoid is the only ATC service if VFR traffic is in the vicinity (They should be so lucky an alert controller was happy enough to pass off information) and then complain against the rules of being there - and this was probably occurring for really only one reason - $$$$. They were either late and keeping the pax happy, or taking a shortcut (less fuel), or avoiding an established instrument approach ($$) by taking a visual/company GPS approach (Through Class E Airspace). Roll the dice but don't complain about your lot because you don't want to observe the rules of operation. This airspace has now been reclassified as Class D, Controlled and requiring an ATC clearance (Wont happen without a transponder if RPT is near) to transit, pending a review. Now messing it up for all VFR traffic/Gliders when they did nothing wrong!!!! We have one 757 crew despising a lone glider at this point in time for now an eternity of VFR pilots loathing all uptight self-important RPT pilots who think all should get out of their way (yes there are good ones in there too and apologise for the generalisation). Hopefully the UK CAA will revert back the rules of the airspace and advise the 757 driver/AOC operator that he ought to think about things; however the pollies will just rake up more muck to pander to some silly minority element and bang on about some misguided Safety crap and needing ATC to keep the drunk teenagers returning from Ibiza happy. Common sense will lose out - to the detriment and equitability, and probably safety of others in using the area. There must be dozens of areas in Australia like this that are just waiting for an incident like this before we too are forced down this path. Is your News Limited.. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 9:17 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspace glider issue UK Interesting. As in "oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die" Sounds like the ATC guys saw the glider from the primary return and the glider didn't have a Mode C or Mode S transponder. If he had, the ATC unit would have known his altitude and he would have shown up on the airliner's TCAS which would have made the airline pilot a whole lot happier. I wonder why the glider pilot didn't seem to see the approaching airliner? At 3000 feet the 757 wouldn't be going all that fast and it is large. Mike At 07:17 PM 27/10/2011, you wrote: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/279943/Holiday-jet-and-glider-close-to-a -collision-over-Glasgow _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: [email protected] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/>
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