Realistic suggestions Tim????
Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 9:47 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio Hi all, If this effort was expended by a museum I'd be all for it. I like to see Tiger Moths and Spitfires flying too, but I would not propose to use them for flying training or as front line fighters. Instead of putting our effort into membership, promotion and state of the art equipment, we think it is a triumph to spend heaps of money to get an obsolete glider flying again so that we can train tomorrow's pilots in it. We are obviously not planning much of a future. There must be a better way forward, even for small operations. Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare On 18/05/2012 09:02, Grant Davies wrote: Hhhmmm think their fix is not really a fix. Gets them off the ground again but does not extend the life. So makes for a very expensive patch job. The real fix that extends the life of the Blanik has just been completed on the first Australian Blanik extending its life out to 11,400 hrs (predominantly winch launched). Although expensive the aircraft has another 50 years in it and suites our small club as an ab-initio trainer. >From my understanding the guys mentioned below had nothing to do with this. Dafydd Llewellyn's original modification was revisited and upgraded to produce a new STC. A company (ARMCOM) has spent considerable amounts of time and money to get set up to do these and offers to do them for the rest of the world as well lol. We don't do aeros aside from spins. Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ross McLean Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 8:27 AM To: 'tom claffey'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio Ah yes, good point Tom. Although most of the stuff they do is low speed dives in formation with one usually inverted. The clips of their aeros are quite gentle in reality. I was actually just addressing the earlier question Aren't Blaniks grounded? ROSS From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 8:17 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio Should we all cheer because these guys find an expensive fix for a problem that probably won't affect anyone who doesn't thrash the crap out of a 40 year old glider never really intended for aeros? Tom _____ From: Ross McLean <[email protected]> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio These guys (Blanix Aerobatic team) are not only the ones that found the original problem causing the Blanik to be grounded in the first place, they are also responsible for the development of the STC fix, which everyone who has a grounded Blanik can now choose to apply. They have designed and implemented the fix on their two Blaniks and are now legally and safely airborne again. See the (thanks to Google Translate) excerpt from their website http://www.blanix.com/Web-Site_3/News/Eintrage/2011/4/8_Start_in_Sicht_....h tml Blanix airborne again .... 04/08/2011 There is progress!! The Blanix team will be involved this year after a really long dry spell in airshow circles! Thanks to great effort of many participants, the time, the "up and downs" over! Great ambition and motivation to gain new perspectives Blaniks this world: "Aircraft design and certification ltd", an EASA-approved "design organization" has dedicated himself to Kurt's initiative, the "Blanik" problem ... with success! Basien Marcus, one of two managing directors has for over half a year dealt intensively with the matter - countless conversations, meetings and phone calls with the whole world were required to start the project can be. The result is now in the form of STC - "Supplemental Type Certificate" - above. In short, the aircraft must be in critical areas examined for cracks and modified subsequently. The effort and above all, emotions which are associated with this project, is probably as Many will not soon forget .... The two aircraft Blanix team are virtually the prototype. Of course, this modification provided technical conditions for everyone else in the world Blanik is applicable! Perhaps as one or the other Blanik find its way back again into the air, would appreciate it! Regards, ROSS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john.mcfarlane Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:20 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio In the second image - Look at the oil canning on the lower wing surface of the inverted Blanik - Between the "Bull" and Airbrake box Redbull has enough money to maintain a shed full of exotic and very much more expensive machines. There is no AD due on new structures, me personally I would have just replaced the entire Attach and Carry through items and Wings with new ones. Not even a challenging job to replace if you make decisions like that - and would still much cheaper than new glass. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glide ratio On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:39:57 +1000 Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> wrote: > At 08:24 AM 16/05/2012, you wrote: > >I wondered what the glide ratio of those flying suits was. > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144792/Redbull-skydivers-skies-high -Austria.html > > > Looking at the pictures, about 2 > > Aren't Blaniks grounded? Or at least non aerobatic? uhm, Red Bull? Adrenalin, stunts? 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