Keep in mind Barnesy is very current, doing 500hrs a year at the moment & has an extreme hunger for competing at the highest personal level - I think he'll clean up regardless of what glider (in the respective class of course!) he flies at the world champs.
Go team AUS, WPP ________________________ On 2012-07-01 06:26:33 +0000 Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Garry > > I would not dispute your eloquent analysis, my comment, at least in part, > was a tongue in cheek. That being said, he did win an Australian > competition in a glider that he had hardly any time in. It was of course a > much far better aircraft than PW5, despite the same national heritage. The > said, the glider had a fantastic training provided by the its regular > pilot, and that should not be discounted :) and I do know the comp was > somewhat rain affected. > > My goals? These days they are quite simple - to enjoy being in the air. > > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > On 30 June 2012 22:46, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> Paul, >> Greetings. >> >> Your comment might be true, but it is meaningless in the present context. >> >> From your statement I suspect that you have not flown a PW 5 for 100 hours >> or so, and probably not even for 1 hour. >> >> We are talking quite different orders of (REDUCED), magnitude of >> performance here compared to LS 8 or even LS 4, or your own SZD 55. >> >> You might be somewhat surprised at just how many hours Allan now has in a >> LS 8. I don't know either, but my guess is well over 100 hours maybe closer >> to 150 hrs. More than enough anyway, to be rated as competent, and >> competitive on type. >> >> Genuine, experienced, PW 5 drivers at World level, understand every nuance >> of their ship and the air they are flying in and react accordingly.Just in >> case you are missing the point that I made in line 3 above, they have to >> react quite differently to a LS 4 (or LS 8), driver. >> >> Allan is a great pilot, but I repeat, he is at a huge disadvantage. I >> understand that he may have less than 5 hours on type (PW 5). >> >> Think about it! >> >> I certainly hope that Allan can put in a great performance, and meet (or >> exceed), the goals that he has set for himself in the upcoming comp. >> >> Which leads me to ask; "How are you going on meeting your own goals?" >> >> Regards, >> Gary >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Paul Bart <[email protected]> >> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in >> Australia.<[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:01 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds >> >>>> So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has >> changed classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a >> huge disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW >> 5. >> >> Hmmm, the fact that he did not have too much time in LS8 does not seems to >> be hurting him too much in the US right now :). >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 30 June 2012 20:32, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Hi Ron, >>> Have you made it to WA yet? >>> >>> Tut, tut, tut. Graft and corruption in Argentina; how can you possibly >>> say that? In this case, I think that what you really meant to say was >>> that a certain party has been granted a "special franchise" to handle the >>> customs arrangements. >>> >>> I am sure you understand how this system works. Any pilot is quite free >>> to use somebody else, but ........do keep in mind that if said pilot >>> chooses the "alternate" route "Nothing can be guaranteed". I will leave it >>> to your imagination to suppose which of the many dire possibilities that >>> can happen, WILL actually happen. Do keep in mind too, that "importing >>> the >>> glider" is regarded as one exercise, and "exporting the (same) glider" is >>> regarded as a totally different exercise - so (just for a start), read >>> "pay >>> double". >>> >>> A very level playing field (for all but the Argentinean competitors): As >>> long as you are a millionaire pilot and can pay on demand without hurting >>> too much, or fully funded by your country regardless of cost, you will not >>> have a problem! >>> >>> I think that Tim will prove right on the numbers. I fell really sorry >>> for Mike Durrant. He told me recently, that the true cost to be >>> competitive >>> in *Standard Class* in Argentina was of the order of A$50,000.00. >>> This involved importing in, and then exporting out a competitive glider >>> as NO glider was available *for hire* in the whole of South America, let >>> alone in Argentina. Any competitive glider in SA would already be entered >>> into the competition! >>> >>> Ron, I think the quanta of those "custom handling fees" you mentioned is >>> about right, but maybe one of the people with first hand knowledge can >>> confirm this? >>> >>> So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has changed >>> classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a huge >>> disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW 5. >>> >>> I sure would like to know how Craig and Tobias are managing (if at all), >>> these basically financial/logistical problems. It would seem that, as >>> always, the flying is the easy(?) part of the exercise, but more so in >>> this >>> venture! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Ron Sanders <[email protected]> >>> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in >>> Australia.<[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:00 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds >>> >>> With 10,000 USD required as graft to get a glider thru customs I think >>> the IGC should have cancelled the event and held it some where where >>> corruption is not the name of the game. >>> >>> >>> On 30 June 2012 11:37, Tim Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ron, >>>> >>>> As I understand it there have been significant problems with the costs >>>> and bureaucratic difficulties of getting gliders into the country. >>>> Apparently there are very few modern gliders available locally. I >>>> believe >>>> that Allan will now be flying in the World Class as it is possible for >>>> him >>>> to hire a PW5 in Argentina. >>>> >>>> Tobi Geiger, Craig Collings and Mike Durrant were in the original team >>>> with Allan - Mike has withdrawn because of the costs but I assume that >>>> Tobi >>>> and Craig are still attending. Both are in Club Class. >>>> >>>> This has not only affected Australia, there are many others around the >>>> world who are facing this problem. It may be a fairly small event. >>>> >>>> Cheers **** >>>> *Tim***** >>>> >>>> *tra dire e fare c'รจ mezzo il mare***** >>>> On 30/06/2012 13:21, Ron Sanders wrote: >>>> >>>> ONLY Alan?????? >>>> >>>> On 29 June 2012 20:04, Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Think Allan Barnes will be there. 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