Hi Patch,
Please enlighten me. What are the achieved benchmarks - both official and
unofficial - for a Boomerang/Super Arrow, that you know about? I seem to
recall that a couple of SA pilots were doing flights of 600k plus, many
years ago, including at least one flight across Spencer Gulf. Do you have an
AG reference for that flight? Ballsy stuff maybe, but I suggest it might be
hard to beat Percy Wills' flight, and story on how he almost(?) accidentally
glid across the English Channel.
I endorse your comments in Para 2. It seems to me that despite my earlier
comment (which I stand by), about the best place for most 1-26 gliders is in
a museum, over the years the owners (as a collective), of these ships have
tested all the limits of what is possible with this type, (and the type did
evolve, as you well know, so there are many model variations), under
(almost?), every possible situation. It is extremely unlikely that any
current record for the type can be improved upon. In my opinion another good
reason to put 99% of these ships in museums, before structural/glue or other
failure kills somebody.
Having made a point or two about the 1-26 as a type, let me make one more
about the skill of the best of the 1-26 pilots. It can be summed up in one
word -Awesome!
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Patching" <[email protected]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial
Hey WPP,
What you are proposing is very similar to what some of us in the vintage
movement have been doing for some time now, unofficially.
What we try to do with our gliders is to fly them to their fullest
potential. We do that by looking at the records of the era and
endeavouring to better those results in our flying. Given the improvements
in instrumentation, our knowledge of weather and more importantly the
improvements in flying skills it is a personal acheivement when it all
comes together.
I am sure the Boomerang is capable of much longer flights and believe they
would have, if the rapid performance gains with GRP gliders hadn't
happened so quickly and replacing those gliders within such a short period
of time.
Patch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Woolley" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012 12:50:14 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial
G'day All,
I've been keen to set up some unofficial club class records since getting
my Cirrus. Hope you see the concept/idea as I've seen it. The reason
behind it,
As per '3.2' - All in good fun, to give those who can't go for official
records due to financial reasons (eg, not being able to obtain a Discus 2,
to go for a STD class record) or not being their preferred class.
In 1999, Tom Claffey & others experienced some amazing weather conditions
in AUS. I think that the weather cycle goes in 7yr increments. Now
approaching 14yrs later, I think we could be in for a good season - cross
your fingers, I & many others would love a regular great season for a
change!!!
All comments & potential additions on the below welcome.
SeeYou,
WPP
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Unofficial Australian Club Club Class Records - Rules V1.0
Concept by Adam Woolley
Written by Adam Woolley
1 - Philosophy: To provide a friendly and honest unofficial record
list/rules for Australian pilots, whom race/fly in Australian airspace, in
the gliders on the Australian Club Class Handicap list provided on the GFA
website.
2 - RULES: Use the Australian Junior Record Rules (found on
www.joeyglide.com.au & www.ajgc.org.au websites) if you want to go
'official official', as kindly put together by Andrew Maddocks. The below
are amendments & simple reminders, in no particular order & are generally
based on the KISS principle, with safety in mind!
If you don't want to read the rules, & if your an honest person - the
below will suffice.
2.1 - Entries Open: 18 JUL 2012.
2.2 - Eligable Gliders: Club Class Gliders, as found on the current years
GFA Club Class Handicap list.
2.3 - Handicaps: the use of the current GFA Club Class Handicap list will
be used for the flight (date) submitted.
2.4 - Reference Weight: the use of the current reference weight as
provided by the GFA club class handicap list for the (date) submitted.
2.5 - After Market Modifications: No penalty will be given for the
addition of winglets, wing fillets or extractor vents.
2.6 - Handicap Adjustments: 0.005 disadvantage per part there of 12kg over
REFERENCE WEIGHT. No performance advantage given for gliders that fly
below REFERENCE WEIGHT.
2.7 - Start Rule: 1km radius over pre-declared waypoint.
2.8 - Turnpoint(s): 500m radius.
2.9 - Finish: 3km radius from the pre-declared waypoint.
2.10 - Record submission: E-Mail your details appropriate for the flight
(Start & Finish Point, Turnpoints (if not a free distance or height gain)
inc waypoint details, glider type, approximate weight (or accurate if
known)), & *.igc file to, [email protected] within 48hrs of 'end of
roll'.
2.11 - Start/Finish Heights: You must finish at the predetermined finish
point, within a 1000m of your start height & predetermined start point.
For 'free distance' one way flights, you must start (predetermined point)
below 1000m AGL & land safely at any point.
2.12 - Records: Each record will stay firm until beaten by the current
years GFA handicap for the club class glider used. ie, won't be changed
each season if the glider handicap or reference weights change.
2.13 - Declarations: A flight must be declared before going through the
start circle, unless it's a Free Distance flight.
3 - GENERAL
3.1 - Remember, unofficial. If you cheat intentially or not being honest,
you're only ripping your fellow mates off.
3.2 - All in good fun, to give those who can't go for official records due
to financial reasons (eg, not being able to obtain a Discus 2, to go for a
STD class record) or not being their preferred class.
3.3 - If the GFA thinks its a good idea, more than happy for the rules to
be re-written officially. Though I would like to think that they'll accept
the unofficial records, even of they have an unofficial column until the
record is beaten officially - to reward the efforts that we've previously
gone too!
3.4 - I know there's lots of holes in the above. Use your noggin for what
you think is right and fair!
3.5 - It's just a game, have fun!
4 - Records obtainable
4.1 - An excel spreadsheet available on request, until I find a place to
upload it to the web.
4.2 - Free Distance
Free Distance
Free Out & Retun Distance
Free Three Turnpoint Distance
4.3 - Distance to Goal
Straight Distance to Goal
Three Turnpoint Distance
Out & Return Distance
FAI Triangle Distance
4.4 - Speed
Speed Out & Return: 100km
Speed Out & Return: 300km
Speed Out & Return: 500km
Speed Out & Return: 750km
Speed Out & Return: 1000km
Speed FAI Triangle: 100km
Speed FAI Triangle: 300km
Speed FAI Triangle: 500km
Speed FAI Triangle: 750km
Speed FAI Triangle: 1000km
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