>> If we have to run intercontinental surface transport on sails because run 
>> out of oil, most of the people on the planet are going to starve
>> Think food. Fertiliser, manufacture of, distribution, planting, harvesting 
>> and transport to consumer. Boats got nothing to do with it

And did we not do these things before oil? And before coal?  Was there
no food in the past?

We absolutely have to reduce our dependence on non-renewables so why
not reduce oil consumption by looking at alternatives such as wind,
wave, solar, bio-fuels etc. It's probably the most exciting
engineering challenge for centuries. And so is the hundred mile food
basket but not for engineering reasons. Who needs a par-bake from
Ireland in Australia?

Near Launceston, there's a steam museum full of traction engines. One
wears a sign which reads "Give me wood and water and I'll work."

D
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