Well said Tim I certainly appreciate your efforts and have seen just how much you and Joy have contributed so that I can enjoy myself.
Thank you. Sincerely. I'd love to see you get the opportunity to fly a bit more yourself instead of working for the enjoyment of all of us. Cath Sent from my iPhone On 13/09/2013, at 7:35 PM, "Tim Shirley" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm, > > What I said, is that our insurers require a Competitors licence as a > qualification for entry, in order to indemnify contest officials against the > consequences of a claim arising from incidents at that contest. Is anyone > suggesting that there should be NO insurance for contest officials? > > This isn’t a rule of the competition. It is there to ensure that there will > actually be some officials willing to run the competition! > > To the best of my knowledge, the issue of a Competition Licence does not > require anything beyond the CFI’s signature to say that in his or her > opinion, the applicant is competent to hold the licence. There is nothing > there about any specific qualification, though clearly a pilot would need a > X/C rating to enter a competition. > > Please try to distinguish between the GFA and an Insurance company – they are > not quite the same thing. > > And one thing more. > > I have yet to be paid to officiate at any gliding contest. The best I have > managed is some help with expenses or some accommodation. I’ve been an > official at more gliding competitions than I can remember or count. But if > you guys are not willing to do at least something to help with the risks of > litigation, then count me out in the future. You don’t deserve my or anyone > elses help. > > I can handle grumpy pilots. I can deal with dusty airfields and 45C. I can > make scoring systems work. I can even get around silly rulemakers. > > But I have serious difficulties getting my enthusiasm back when people just > take it for granted that I’ll be there to run next one. > > Cheers > > Tim > Tra dire e fare c’è mezzo il mare > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Collum > Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013 18:35 > To: 'Mal Bruce'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] State Comp Required Pilot Qualifications > > Dear Mal, > > You seem to be offended by John’s suggestion that some of our badges are > equivalent to boy scout badges, but let’s be honest—isn’t that what some of > them are? > > You also seem to be upset by his questioning of the requirement of a 5 hour > flight for competition pilots. Are our rules so perfect that there is no room > to challenge them? > > Tim Shirley has indicated that the “5 hour flight” is an insurance > requirement for competitions, but I am not aware of any evidence that this is > based on anything other than someone’s theory that it is reasonable. Maybe > alternative “qualifications” could be negotiated if enough people thought it > was reasonable? > > You make a couple of interesting observations about fatigue and some > industries’ responses to the admission of fatigue—I just wish when I said I > felt fatigued someone would stand me down” J. But, have you never been > tempted to yawn [surely a sign of fatigue or boredom or loss of > concentration] while flying a glider? Did you promptly ground yourself? Will > you promptly ground yourself [i.e. land at the first place it is safe to do > so] if you do yawn when 300km from your destination? > > John raised some reasonable issues [perhaps not quite as subtlety as he > might] and I think they deserve reasonable and reasoned answers. > > Regards, > > Colin > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce > Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Aus-soaring] State Comp Required Pilot Qualifications > > Heavy vehicle drivers can drive for 5 hours and 15 minutes with out a break I > guess they are professionals we drive up to 12 - 14 hours depending on what > fatigue management rules they operate under. > > Long hall pilots are often on duty for 16 hours. > > If you were working for NSW State Transit Authority to mention fatigue or say > you are fatigued you would be stood down and sent off for medical checks this > did does happen, from a close family member this has happened at Qantas as > well. > > The two hours fatigue caters for the lowest common denominator, not for > professional drivers. > > In gliding, driving and flying they make rules. > > The reason they are unlikely to change the rules for you is they are there > for safety and liability reasons. > > Southern cross gliding club used to make pilots stay local at Forbes and do > their five hours. > Before venturing off on their 50 km flights. I suggest you do the same. > > I was 14 when I started gliding I have seen many pilots hit fences, trees, > cars, other aircraft on the ground and in the air most of them dehydrated and > fatigued that’s 32 years of gliding and 600 hours when your at the NSW comps > have a look at the 18 meter trophy it took 21 years to get that. > > Your comment about boy scout badges is so insulting the the sport of gliding > maybe your RAAF culture is to blame hopefully your clubs CFI insists you do > your five hours local given your public admission of fatigue. > > Regards The One > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6656 - Release Date: 09/11/13 > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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