At 03:38 PM 23/05/2014, you wrote:

I believe the butterfly vario has an adjustment of how much you want to 'mix in' the accelerator/gyro with the TE. I hear the recommended setting has increased over time so they must be getting more confident. Current the big advantage of these new varios is instantaneous wind information. I can see that being very useful in the mountains.


As Jim says there is a number generated by the calibration process on that vario as to whether the wind and airmass feature will even work. If you can't get a high enough calibration number they are disabled. They use a separate pointer for the gust resistant vario and it is updated only once a second. I suspect it only works when flying in straight lines.

Mixing crappy accelerometer/gyro data with "good" (but subject to horizontal gusts) pressure TE gets you a less good pressure TE vario with some attenuation of the horizontal gusts. We looked at that and could get really good gust attenuation for very short period gusts (< 1 to 2 seconds) but the longer the gust went on the worse the gust effect got. Might make the vario a little steadier.Again, easy enough to get this to work in straight lines but didn't seem worth the trouble because the real gust problem is those that last for 5 to 7 seconds which cause you to turn and fly through "sink". A false turn costs around 30 to 60 seconds.

Years ago some people thought the problem was that they turned the wrong way and Col Norman built a wing bending sensor to try to detect on which side the thermal really was. Lots wrong with that including that deflecting the ailerons will bend the wing (AFAIK there was no control input compensation) and the scale of the lift bending the wing - you may see a small bubble bending one wing but the larger thermal may be elsewhere. Nothing came of that idea and I haven't seen it revived after Col's death in a mid air. I think what was really going on was horizontal gust encounters so there was no "right way" to turn.

Wind calculations are done several ways now. It is better if you have TAS information available. A couple are: You can measure drift in thermals or difference between ground speed (from GPS) and TAS on opposite sides of the thermal). In straight flight the difference between GPS groundspeed and TAS easily gives the wind component in the direction you are going. This is what you need for final glide calculations. To get the wind direction as well in straight flight you need a magnetic heading sensor as well as the TAS, ground speed and track. This lets you complete the triangle of velocities to get wind speed and direction. In any reasonable straight flight you really only need a 2D compass. There is a little cheat possible in gliders because we rarely fly in dead straight lines between thermals. If a significant course correction is made you are sampling the component in the direction of flight in two different directions and hence you can get wind speed and direction as long as you have TAS, groundspeed and ground track. You don't need a compass (magnetic heading sensor ) for this. XCSoar does this. We had this in the B2000 13 years ago and called it the zig-zag wind.

I really wonder how useful second by second wind information is. When heading for a ridge in the mountains you really want to know if the wind is blowing at something like right angles to the face or not. I suspect averaging the wind over 5 to 15 seconds is going to be more useful to you and if you turn to avoid the ridge the zig zag wind will give you that wind speed and direction anyway. It may be that some enhanced meteorological awareness is possible in the vicinity of thermals but I think a some better wind display will be required. Maybe a 4 channel audio would help.

To be useful a 2D wind averaged over several tens of seconds to within 10 degrees and a few knots is plenty good enough. For this, the horizontal wind calculation can withstand inertial sensor errors 10 to 50 times the size of those you need for a good vario. You can do that with the current MEMS gyros and accelerometers, aided by the 3D magnetometer(compass). How well anything using a compass will work depends on where you are on Earth as to the characteristics of the local magnetic field. You may need to do a recalibration when you move some significant distance or install any new gear in the glider or when the current draw changes. I've had a magnetometer on my bench for 15 years. There just aren't many good places to put one in a sailplane after considering the structure, wiring etc. The existing compass will cause problems also and is usually already in the "best" place.

The same errors will make a *terrible* vario (vertical wind).

I suspect the real motivation behind the new generation inertial varios is to do the horizontal gust elimination. i.e a total energy vario that doesn't respond to horizontal gusts. You may get the horizontal 2D wind as a side benefit. So far the first is only a partial success, hence the playing up of the instant wind.

Mike








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