I believe I read somewhere the pilots that are having a higher proportion of accidents are those that do not have any colour vision issues. Perhaps he should have researched why pilots without colour vision issues have more accidents than the "colour impaired vision Pilots".
The "thugs from CASA" (not my words) are at it again it would seem. Ian McPhee On 18 June 2014 23:00, Gary Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm, > > Just fished this back out of my “delete” box. > > > > Ross raises a couple of interesting points here, namely: > > 1. “Who is Peter Fereday” ie What is his professional background? How did > he get to his current position? What are his responsibilities/what does he > actually do? > > Are there political implications here, and if so what have his masters > commanded him to do? Is he a “competent person” ? > > > > 2. If there are no political implications, what is his > purpose in raising this (dead???), issue? > > > > If we do not know the answers to these questions, and in particular to > Q2, it is somewhat presumptuous to assume “ .....an issue that is > complete and utter nonsense”. > > > > This thread basically began with a “Brisbane Times” news article. Let me > make a VERY important point here. In my dealings with the popular media, > where I have been in full position of the facts, I have NEVER yet seen a > 100% accurate presentation of those facts by the media! Please keep this > foremost in your minds. > > > > The Brisbane Times somewhat vaguely mentions a paper written by Douglas B > Watson (PMO, NZCA), which (the reporter thinks???), is relevant to his > article. > > > > Has anybody FOUND this paper? Is it, in fact relevant? Have they READ it , > CONSIDERED it, and come to an opinion? > > > > It is reported that the AFAP made a submission on the matter. If the BT > article can be taken at face value, the AFAP submission was very weak. I > find this somewhat difficult to believe. > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ross McLean > *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 June 2014 6:37 PM > > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Offtopic perhaps - but would be interested > to read opinions > > > > Good Grief! > > Excluding colour blind pilots just doesn't make any sense at all to me. > > It may have once upon a time, before HF and VHF radio communication and > mobile phones were commonplace and the Tower would give take off and > landing clearances with Red or Green lights. But that went out with flying > goggles and fabric and wood aeroplanes. What is the point? > > > > I personally have several very long term good friends who are Airline > Captains with 10's of thousands of hours and long successful aviation > careers behind them who have always been colour blind. Never seems to have > compromised their ability nor the safety of their operations. > > > > Just who is this "CASA's Industry Permissions Manager Peter Fereday" > anyway and what is the purpose of raising an issue that is a complete and > utter nonsense? > > > > According to the Brisbane Times article quoted below ".....Colour blind > pilots have been able to co-pilot passenger planes in Australia for the > past 25 years since two landmark cases in the 1980s at the Administrative > Appeals Tribunal." Dr Arthur Pape, a pilot who brought one case against > CASA at that time concisely stated that there was ''not a skerrick of > evidence to suggest that pilots have made so much as a scratch on an > aeroplane as a result of colour vision impairment'' in that time. ''Those > pilots have been impeccable,'' he said. > > > > ROSS > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dion Stuart > Baker > *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 June 2014 5:02 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Offtopic perhaps - but would be interested > to read opinions > > > > How about changes be made so that colour coding/general systems are > changed so that colour blind people *can* distinguish between them? > Changing to red/blue would help with 99% of those who are colourblind (the > Protanopia and Deuteranopia affected people, which is upwards of 99% of > colourblind people - Tritanopia is the cause for some 0.001% of people). > > I'd be interested to know how many colour blind pilots are out there - I > think the statistic I heard is 25% of Western males and 10% of the world's > population of males have some severity of colour blindness, although for > many of them it's so slight they don't know - I personally work with a guy > who never knew until he applied for a position in the ADF. > > It's pretty depressing (albeit understandable) when you're automatically > excluded from a slew of jobs because of something you were born with - for > me it was commercial pilot, SAPOL, MFS, half the jobs in the ADF, lab > technician, just to name a few. It's more frusturating when you feel that > being colour blind wouldn't matter, or if a different colour coding system > was used, wouldn't be an issue. > > Just my 2c from a butthurt colourblind guy. > > Dion > > > > On 18 June 2014 11:34, Nelson Handcock <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/casa-crackdown-threatens-to-ground-colour-blind-pilots-20140617-3abkg.html > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Nelson Handcock > 0409 149919 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > -- > sudo apt-get install witty-mail-signature > cannot find package: witty-mail-signature > sudo apt-get install lame-mail-signature > installing ... > > The main idea of "Inception": if you run a VM inside a VM inside a VM > inside a VM, everything will be very, very slow. > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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