any one in Victoria that wanted to fly in the cancelled Vic state comp is more than welcome to attend the NSW state comps in Temora in December.

regards

Richard





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   1. VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF (John Switala)
   2. Re: VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF - Pilot commtment
      (Gary Stevenson)
   3. Re: VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF - Pilot commtment
      (Mike Borgelt)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:45:46 +1100
From: "John Switala" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Aus-soaring] VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF
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The VSA State competition that was re-scheduled to Benalla between 29
November and 6 December 2014, has been called OFF.  There were only 7
participants, spread over 4 classes, not enough for  a valid comp.



Also, we had organised people to help run the comp, including one who was
taking leave to help us, and it is hardly fair on them to give up their time
and then not have a valid comp.



The VSA State comps will probably be run in-conjunction with Horsham week in
February 2015.



Regards

John Switala



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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:11:40 +1100
From: "Gary Stevenson" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF -
        Pilot   commtment
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Hallo John,

I for one, REALLY appreciate the effort that you (and no doubt a very few
un-named others), have put in to try and try and get this comp up, as a
stand alone event in Victoria for 2014/15: THANK YOU.

*****************************************************

I wonder what this abysmal result says about the mind set of  firstly GCV
pilots (the potential host club), then Victorian pilots in general, and
finally that of pilots in SA & NSW who could quite easily (?), also attend?
[Yeah I know all about those pathetic excuses, that start " I only have 4
weeks annual leave per year, and I have already committed to spend 2 weeks
of that at the beach with my family".]



Anyone considering this matter, must also think about the concurrent 2014/15
SA State Comp debacle.



To my mind, there is not the slightest doubt that at the National level, the
performance of pilots competing at this level continues to advance. This is
not surprising given the increasing International exposure gained by many of
the competing pilots. This experience feeds back into the system:. The
performance advance, not just of the top 3 or so pilots, but of the whole
field is quite marked. I think that as far as competition flying is
concerned, at the National and International level things are basically on
track.



As to the rest? The only thing I can say is that it takes time and effort to
become a good soaring pilot. If you want to be a good competition pilot, or
a good distance flyer, there are additional skills that must be learned.
Club Regattas and State Competitions are the ideal training ground to learn
competition flying skills. If you want distance, start early and finish
late. None of this is impossible: however it does require YOUR commitment.



The OLC is basically about distance flying. Are there differences here to
flying  State/National Competitions which are basically only about speed
flying ? Of course, but perhaps surprisingly, the essential skills required
are, in the main, exactly the same. Mostly the top scoring Australian OLC
pilots also include the top scoring Australian competition pilots.  Have a
re-read of James Cooper's very recent article in Gliding Australia - issue
21 - on "Winning the OLC". You will see that his final comment is on the
total commitment that is required.



Regards,

Gary







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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Switala
Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Aus-soaring] VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF





The VSA State competition that was re-scheduled to Benalla between 29
November and 6 December 2014, has been called OFF.  There were only 7
participants, spread over 4 classes, not enough for  a valid comp.



Also, we had organised people to help run the comp, including one who was
taking leave to help us, and it is hardly fair on them to give up their time
and then not have a valid comp.



The VSA State comps will probably be run in-conjunction with Horsham week in
February 2015.



Regards

John Switala



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:56:57 +1000
From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF -
        Pilot commtment
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Maybe there are too many State contests resulting
in lack of enough support for each?

Perhaps it is time for re-organisation into Regionals.

Western in WA

Southern - SA, Vic and southern NSW (Riverrina)(and Tassie

Northern - Qld, and northern NSW (say Narromine north)

Mike




At 08:11 PM 23/11/2014, you wrote:
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>
>Hallo John,
>I for one, REALLY appreciate the effort that you
>(and no doubt a very few un-named others), have
>put in to try and try and get this comp up, as a
>stand alone event in Victoria for 2014/15: THANK YOU.
>*****************************************************
>I wonder what this abysmal result says about the
>mind set of  firstly GCV pilots (the potential
>host club), then Victorian pilots in general,
>and finally that of pilots in SA & NSW who could
>quite easily (?), also attend?  [Yeah I know all
>about those pathetic excuses, that start ? I
>only have 4 weeks annual leave per year, and I
>have already committed to spend 2 weeks of that at the beach with my family?.]
>
>Anyone considering this matter, must also think
>about the concurrent 2014/15 SA State Comp debacle.
>
>To my mind, there is not the slightest doubt
>that at the National level, the performance of
>pilots competing at this level continues to
>advance. This is not surprising given the
>increasing International exposure gained by many
>of the competing pilots. This experience feeds
>back into the system:. The performance advance,
>not just of the top 3 or so pilots, but of the
>whole field is quite marked. I think that as far
>as competition flying is concerned, at the
>National and International level things are basically on track.
>
>As to the rest? The only thing I can say is that
>it takes time and effort to become a good
>soaring pilot. If you want to be a good
>competition pilot, or a good distance flyer,
>there are additional skills that must be
>learned. Club Regattas and State Competitions
>are the ideal training ground to learn
>competition flying skills. If you want distance,
>start early and finish late. None of this is
>impossible: however it does require YOUR commitment.
>
>The OLC is basically about distance flying. Are
>there differences here to flying  State/National
>Competitions which are basically only about
>speed flying ? Of course, but perhaps
>surprisingly, the essential skills required are,
>in the main, exactly the same. Mostly the top
>scoring Australian OLC pilots also include the
>top scoring Australian competition pilots.  Have
>a re-read of James Cooper?s very recent article
>in Gliding Australia ? issue 21 ? on ?Winning
>the OLC?. You will see that his final comment is
>on the total commitment that is required.
>
>Regards,
>Gary
>
>
>
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Switala
>Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 1:46 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Aus-soaring] VIC State Comps at Benalla called OFF
>
>
>The VSA State competition that was re-scheduled
>to Benalla between 29 November and 6 December
>2014, has been called OFF.  There were only 7
>participants, spread over 4 classes, not enough for  a valid comp.
>
>Also, we had organised people to help run the
>comp, including one who was taking leave to help
>us, and it is hardly fair on them to give up
>their time and then not have a valid comp.
>
>The VSA State comps will probably be run
>in-conjunction with Horsham week in February 2015.
>
>Regards
>John Switala
>
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