you know guys, I understand all of the update now etc and perhaps we have to do so because of the interconnection of all things now with satellites internet etc etc but I still have a more than 30 year old transisior radio (AmFm, swtichable between 9 hz and 10 hz spacing) that I have taken all around the world over the last 30 years! 6 inches by 1.5 by 3.5. It still works and i still use it - cant see why I wont be using it in another 20 years.
I really hate this age of consumerism. and the above is of course irrelevant. ron On 1 December 2014 at 05:40, Tim Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Although typically this can be resolved by replacement of the internal > battery (and then keeping it charged), the reality is that this will be an > ongoing and random problem - because the failure occurs after the internal > battery fails or is allowed to run flat. > > It is possible that the IGC Sporting Code will be amended to allow this date > change to be accepted for some levels of validation, though I doubt it would > be changed sufficiently to allow the validation of a record claim, and > changes do take some time. > > However, the bottom line is that it is really time to consider an upgrade. > I don't think anyone can expect an item of electronic equipment to last for > ever, and these have lasted far longer than most. > > Cheers > > Tim Shirley > > tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare > > On 1/12/2014 1:17 AM, Ron Sanders wrote: > > Regards how widespread this is Pam i do not know but i have two > volksloggers that tell me it is 1995. > > ron S > > On 29 November 2014 at 16:11, pam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please be aware that some older Flight Recorders have a problem with the > DATE – they think it is 1995. > > This is coming from the older Garmin engines in some FRs- so far Cambridge > 20, 25, older 302s, Volksloggers, Zander models have been identified. > > Ask the agent for your FR if they can fix the problem. > > Ian Macphee can fix Cambridge untis – call him. > > Here is something from a recent thread on Aus-Soaring: > > Ian Mc Phee Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:49:51 -0800 > > All the model 20 Cambridge camera box loggers have this garmin gps 25 > > engine as well as early aluminium case 302 vario (not the newer black case > > ones). Many now are displaying this March 1995 date yet are still > > acquiring satellites & navigating which I find strange. > > > > At this stage I am replacing 302s with a garmin GPS15 engine which is > > smaller but with adapter fits. > > > > I can replace the GPS25 battery and then reset the clock (adding UTC time > > and lat and long approx & maybe they will kick start again) but is a real > > pain. > > > > Anyhow if you have a Cambridge mod 20 or non black case 302 then check date > > and if 1995 you WILL have issues. > > > > I ask the question how many electronic items do you have 20 years old? Not > > many I suspect. The model 10 brick box is over 20 yrs old and most model 20 > > loggers are over 15 years old. > > > > So maybe upgrade time is coming and remember all vario makers have made > > significant improvements in varios over the years. > > > > Ian Mcphee > > You will need to send the Volkslogger to some-one who can reset the memory > > inside the GPS and at the same time replace the internal battery or upgrade > > to a new logger. > > See post from several years ago from on Aus-Soaring. > > > > I found this post which indicates that the engine is a Garmin GPS25. > > Just to wrap things up, this problem has beep traced to the Garmin GPS > > Engine. The GPS25 engine has a battery which maintains some memory and > > also runs the Real Time Clock when the device is not in use, recharging > > during normal operation. > > > > When the GPS25 battery is low (which happens more often the older the > > logger is), memory in the GPS engine sometimes gets partially corrupted, > > in a way that the GPS is not able to detect. > > > > Therefore, the GPS thinks it is 1,024 weeks (about 19.6 years) before > > present date. > > > > The solution is to replace the GPS battery (in order to reduce the > > probability of a re-occurrence), and reset the memory inside the GPS so > > that it knows in which 19.6 year epoch it is. This is not something the > > user can do. > > > > It has nothing to do with the Volkslogger Internal Battery, but it is > > perhaps worth thinking about taking the opportunity of replacing it > > during the repair. > > > > Sounds like the GPS date rollover problem affecting older GPS units, where > > the date wraps around every 1024 weeks. Here, 8 Nov 2014 minus 1024 weeks > > is 25 March 1995. 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