B40 with 9v battery is my backup. Or will be once I get a CofA.

Dennis


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> On 6 Dec 2014, at 8:18 pm, James Dutschke <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Mike. 
> 
> Unsure how the mechanics of the colibri2 vario work. But it seems to do a 
> pretty good job of compensating. It may be using the gps data to compensate 
> for speed changes. My next glider won't have a mech vario as a backup. 
> Between a good vario with backup power and the C2 as a get me home style 
> vario 
> 
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> 
>> On 6 Dec 2014, at 18:26, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> A vario in stand alone logger won't have total energy.
>> 
>> While TE introduces problems it is essential in modern slippery gliders. In 
>> your Blanik , Grunau Baby etc not so much.
>> 
>> We did considerable flight data logging in developing Dynamis some of it in 
>> smooth air trying to fly accurately at constant airspeed. It is amazingly 
>> difficult and the magnitudes of the stick lift are quite large even down at 
>> 55 to 60 knots.
>> 
>> As a standby vario a non TE vario won't be that good. I think the Colibri 2 
>> was developed for the hang and paraglider market primarily where a non TE 
>> vario is OK.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 03:25 PM 6/12/2014, you wrote:
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>>> 
>>> G’day Tim and Others,
>>> 
>>> The Colibri II has the audio plus it navigates/records etc with a 6 hour 
>>> battery life of its own.
>>> 
>>> The audio can be turned off easily when it’s not required.
>>> 
>>> And if the agent reads this I’m prepared to accept a small [or even a large 
>>> ] commission! J
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [ 
>>> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley
>>> Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2014 3:14 PM
>>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks heaps to people posting factual information about products of 
>>> interest to soaring pilots.  It is so much more useful than most of the 
>>> nonsense that passes for comment here.  Even if people are singing the 
>>> praises of their own products, I still welcome all such information.
>>> 
>>> I already have a high-end vario, so I'm not in the market for yet another 
>>> magic box that will transform me into Sebastian Kawa.  It didn't work with 
>>> the first one either, though I am sure that is down to me.  The instrument 
>>> works fine.  I also have a Winter vario that performs well enough as a 
>>> backup but when I recently had a fuse blow in flight, I found myself with 
>>> only the Winter for a couple of hours and I would have preferred a bit of 
>>> audio and an averager.
>>> 
>>> Of course, such a backup vario doesn't need to be complex and certainly it 
>>> should not be expensive.  It just needs to have a backup power supply 
>>> onboard the instrument.  So what are the options?
>>> 
>>> Oh, and a reminder to all, I still have a very nice Discus for sale at a 
>>> very reasonable price :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Tim Shirley
>>> 
>>> tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare
>>> 
>>> On 6/12/2014 2:26 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Imitation is the greatest compliment.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900.
>>> 
>>> We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago 
>>> and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well 
>>> on the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900.
>>> 
>>> Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds 
>>> running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for 
>>> hours (power pack but no batteries included).
>>> 
>>> These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, 
>>> advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, 
>>> glide/nav/wind  computer, GPS  and serial output of GPS, air data and 
>>> settings to external PNA type glide computers.
>>> 
>>> All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of 
>>> extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer 
>>> movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales.  
>>> Most manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays 
>>> 
>>> in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We 
>>> looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution 
>>> that was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario 
>>> had a pointer that moved in half knot steps.
>>> 
>>> All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard 
>>> holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the 
>>> outside of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer 
>>> display.
>>> 
>>> The B600/B800  can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real 
>>> time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive 
>>> (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted 
>>> a B800 to get an early Dynamis when 
>>> 
>>> available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it 
>>> replaced and better than the LX9000 audio.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. 
>>>  It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms 
>>> including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows 
>>> you to more daily centre thermals.  It also has up/down arrows showing 
>>> whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the 
>>> thermal. It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not 
>>> need a flask as per the previous Tasman model. 
>>> 
>>> I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it 
>>> has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots.  Worth a look! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> David Cleland
>>> 
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