“I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell.  In every 
case the shell smells like turps  is added where as BP smells normal like you 
expect fuel to smell like.   People are smelling the difference 100%.   Some 
are describing the smell as paint thinners.”

Sniffing petrol a much cheaper way of getting high than aviating?

“Shell is a golden bright yellow colour where BP is more normal fuel colour.”

The yellow colour is the dye added for identification.  All petrol blending 
streams are colourless.

...John




From: Ian Mc Phee 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:29 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

I must admit I used epoxy resin Ciba/G  3600 and not vinyl ester.   I am going 
to try again using vinyl ester. 

I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell.  In every 
case the shell smells like turps  is added where as BP smells normal like you 
expect fuel to smell like.   People are smelling the difference 100%.   Some 
are describing the smell as paint thinners.  Shell is a golden bright yellow 
colour where BP is more normal fuel colour. 

In germany they have zero issues of fuel turning clear fuel lines a real dark 
brown so dark you can not see brought be in 2 months.  Sure happens here with 
liberty /shell

So 98s are not the same. 

Ian mcphee

On 04/02/2015 1:31 pm, "DMcD" <[email protected]> wrote:

  >>I'll stick to Avgas in the BD-4 even though the 7:1 compression ratio 
engine (same as Super Cub) can handle unleaded from an octane rating basis.

  Unless things have changed, with some two strokes used in SLGs like
  the Solo engines, the manufacturer recommends using 95, not Avgas. The
  claim is that Avgas makes the engine run rougher and vibrate more than
  95.

  It's difficult to get a real picture but a lot of the US experience,
  where they tend to overcompensate and use Avgas instead of 95, seems
  to suggest they have more problems overall, not less. Then again, they
  can't get the recommended Castrol 2 stroke oil either.

  I tend to agree with Mike here regarding resins too. It's really
  difficult to point your finger at the fuel without knowing more about
  the resins used in the layup.

  And the problems and expense of wing fuel bags seem to be not worth
  the effort. The recommendations in the manual that I have read say
  that they cannot be left with fuel in overnight, that they cannot be
  entirely drained either but need to have a small amount of oil in
  them. They have a very short life span (8-10 years?) and are sodding
  expensive to replace.

  Probably cheaper to replace than a fuselage mounted glass tank though!

  D
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