Beats me how that went out -but apologies to all.]
Glenn

On 1/06/2015 9:31 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote:
oops. I guess.
Talk about thread drift!

Mike


At 09:22 AM 1/06/2015, you wrote:
Hi Ken,
Looks like we are going the right way forwards towards getting this actioned. Re reading the originator for the topic about mishandled advanced aerobatics, signals that there was a deficiency in knowledge of basics. That would be a direct result of the lack of information in the IH about how this is done and how to teach it to others. It is well past time we actually got this done.

There needs to be an included module on design limits , speed placarding on ASI's and why rolling G is so important,(especially with larger span gliders). An understanding of how the yellow arc speeds are affected by use of combined control inputs is needed.

I think the illustrations in the reference I forwarded to you are sufficient. They are clear and accurate, and only need to be revised into any "how we teach" document.

I previously mentioned Nigel Arnott should be included in development. This was specifically because of his extensive experience in advanced aerobatics , as a National unlimited category champion, and his vast Gliding experience teaching advanced Aerobatics over many years. I am sure there must be others with similar useful knowledge and experience, with whom we should also be consulting- perhaps ask each state to nominate their sky god.

My view is that Basic Aerobatics should remain as part of the Instructor Handbook and all instructors should be able to perform these successfully. Anything to do with Advanced Aerobatics should be included into an advanced Gliding Instruction document. All training for advanced aerobatics in gliders should only be carried out by appropriately trained specialists in gliders rated for those maneuvers. Previous training and experience in basic aerobatics should be a requirement for this. A suitable medical standard needs to be defined for the higher forces involved.

I don't envy your task to lay this out for the Ops panel then get consensus, as my experience tells me it will result in a "yes minister" outcome, but I may be surprised. Best of British Luck anyway.
Regards
Glenn





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