That podcast robbed me of thirty minutes of my life (I couldn't handle the
entire 60 minutes) and reaffirmed my belief in podcasts. I thought I might
be in trouble when the cheesy music started with a voice over
"Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nooww... the man who went to the drug store to get his
wife a box of eye pads .... caaaarrrrrrrrrrrllll franklin". I'm sure that
was amusing/made sense to someone.

On 12 February 2010 08:42, Jonathan Parker <[email protected]>wrote:

> Maybe it's time for an entire overhaul of .NET and the CLR?


Why?


> This is a very interesting podcast where Juval Lowy tries to explain why
> every class (including .NET classes)

"should" be WCF services.
> http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=520
>

Just because you can, does not mean you should. The guy was on the show to
peddle/plug his book on WCF so his conclusion was perhaps fairly
unsurprising.

His argument is based on a false dichotomy that developers spend all their
time doing a) worthless plumbing or b) value added business logic that
managers like. From that he said something along the lines of "WCF
implements every conceivable piece of plumbing". Also, apparently,
developers are not experts in synchronisation and other basic fundamentals
of computing science (NFI why I went to unit for three years then).

Sorry to sound so harsh but this guy just sounds like yet another blogger
dude with a barrow to push promising a silver bullet for all our woes. Maybe
he can team up with the dynamic language crowd and merge WCF with ruby,
javascript and rails and then we can all write expressive code while singing
kumbaya and never have to write anything except value added business logic.

I am getting so tired of people offering silver bullets for all our woes by
some idiot with a blog doing crazy man hand waiving that "YOU'RE DOING IT
ALL WRONG" and we need to throw out everything and go back to re-education
camp to learn the new thing that is going to fix everything.

[ ... ]

David.


>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:58 AM, David Connors <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11 February 2010 18:19, silky <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if I am alone, out here, in thinking that C# is (possibly)
>>> going in a strange and bad direction. We can notice that it is tending
>>> to more of a dynamic/scripting-like language, with less compile-time
>>> checks (or worded another way, more freedom) with features that you
>>> could argue are "generally" harmful, and only "sometimes" useful
>>> (Extension Methods being the primary example, anonymous classes being
>>> another).
>>>
>>
>> I've not looked closely enough at the dynamic features in C# 4 to comment,
>> but .NET has strong fundamentals and I appreciate Nick Wienholt's comments
>> re Hejlsberg. He has produced environments with incredible pedigree in both
>> his Borland and Microsoft days - I think he is a genius and a true asset to
>> MS more so than most other people who are held up as MS 'rockstars'. I just
>> hope MS are not spooked into doing something completely insane with .NET on
>> the basis of the apparent popularity of dynamic languages in the freetard
>> community.
>>
>> From following the dynamic crowd for the past year and a half or so, I
>> have concluded that it is a religious movement; at least that is the only
>> reason I can figure out why anyone would endure a Steve Yegge talk or blog
>> post. The same people probably believe Erlang propaganda.  Their bossman
>> needs to give them more work to do so they can stop trying to figure out how
>> to invent 1995.
>>
>> --
>> David Connors ([email protected])
>> Software Engineer
>> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com
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>>
>


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