What I don’t understand (and I am not a programmer) is why there isn’t a broker 
setup.  In the Mainframe world normally, you would have your database on a 
private network that will only server a request server and serve the data that 
it requests to see.  I really get nervous these days when databases are not 
behind private networks with no public access to whatsoever.

That’s my food for thought be interested to see what goes on in the real world 
today but I just see this as not the most secure way to be handling any 
information that is stored in a database.

Regards


Andrew

From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Kahl 
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 12:40 pm
To: Nathan Brookfield <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus Hack
Resent from: <[email protected]>

Is there any legal obligation to store sensitive ID information in its original 
form? Storing a hashed version only would be sufficient to prove the details 
had been collected and verify any future ID verification requirements without 
actually retaining the sensitive data.

Separately, should the government provide an opt in two factor ID verification 
service for critical services such as telco, utilities, banking, etc? There are 
privacy concerns, however if implemented correctly they wouldn't be collecting 
any further information than what they legally have access to now.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:12 AM Nathan Brookfield 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
They’re legally obligated to retain it but why it’s on the API and why it’s not 
encrypted.

Looking at the data some fields are hashed and then repeated in the bloody 
clear :(

On 27 Sep 2022, at 11:02, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

My understanding was that the data included the 100 points of ID info. Why are 
they retaining this? Surely after confirming the 100 points there only needs to 
be a record "100 points provided"=true and not retain the actual details. This 
goes back to only keeping the private data you need.

regards,
Glenn

On 2022-09-27 10:49, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
> Personally, I find putting Authentication on my API endpoints to be a
> FANTASTIC first step towards API security.  And then not even using
> public IP addresses in test environments is a pretty good second
> step..  </onlyhalfsarcasticherewhydoesthiskeephappening>
> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 10:46, Bevan Slattery 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> Obviously a big week in telco and cybersecurity.  As part of my work
>> I am on the Australian Cyber Security Industry Advisory Committee as
>> an industry representative.
>> I am keen to look at opening up a dialogue with more and more telco,
>> DC and Cloud CISO’s on what they are doing around this issue and
>> looking to take a proactive step towards best practice on customer
>> data and system security.
>> There will be some pretty serious consequences of this hack on the
>> industry and importantly we need to make sure we are as best placed
>> to help each other continually increase in security posture through
>> best practice, but also working with each other as an industry.
>> Are people keen on having a online/VC session sometime in the next
>> few weeks where like-minded industry participants get together and
>> discuss security, retention, encryption, threat detection etc.?  If
>> so, just ping me directly and if there is enough interest I will
>> send out an invitation to the list for a call.
>> Cheers
>> [b]
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