Yeah we end up having to do this and route traffic via Vocus at times with TPG/AAPT/PIPE traffic as TPG no longer peer with public IX exchanges.
https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-vic/ <https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-vic/> https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-nsw/ <https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-nsw/> Related, this means that if you have sites behind Cloudflare (who do peer with IX) as a CDN / DDoS protection for example all your traffic routes off-shore with TPG & Friends - https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/ <https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/> -- Sam McLeod https://smcleod.net https://twitter.com/s_mcleod Words are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent those of my employer or partners. > On 25 Dec 2017, at 11:51 am, Christopher Hawker > <[email protected]> wrote: > > A workaround I used was to route the traffic to my network in a DC. Reduces > the latency by about 200ms and drops the number of hops. > > Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. > > CH. > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > > <imaged0bb7c.PNG> <http://www.allitservices.com.au/> email: > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > phone: 1300 4 ALL IT | 1300 4 255 48 > website: www.allitservices.com.au <http://www.allitservices.com.au/> > Sydney: Suite 49 Lifestyle Working > 117 Old Pittwater Road Brookvale 2100 > Melbourne: Suite 4 Lifestyle Working Collins Street > 838 Collins Street Victoria Harbour 3008 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Joseph Goldman <[email protected]> > Date: 25/12/17 10:08 am (GMT+10:30) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Routing Issue > > Yup I get the same issue - works perfectly from my peered network but on a > relatives Foxtel (read: Telstra) connection it goes overseas. > > If only there was enough of this type of traffic to force the big guys onto > peering fabrics. > > > On 23/12/17 20:02, Nathan Brookfield wrote: >> It doesn’t look like a problem as such to me, just that AAPT don’t peer >> anywhere that has a more specific AU route and the originator are not >> advertising to Transit in AU, only Peering fabrics. >> >> Nathan Brookfield >> Chief Executive Officer >> >> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd >> http://www.simtronic.com.au >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.simtronic.com.au&c=E,1,OeMtMwJAOVzKo0K1LM3ICJNgX8Q59HNH3YDjrrSfqmyK3zVTrQc-Hqe9J6pHaHnjjOpEEy-ZZSM3GLXxhbgP7I7pe8I-N0o6d0VqgZZT&typo=1> >> >> On 23 Dec 2017, at 19:59, Christopher Hawker <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> It appears as though AAPT has a routing issue. For some reason when pinging >> IBM's Quad9, it goes overseas: >> >> >> >> C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9 >> >> Tracing route to dns.quad9.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,qHd3ixGR9AlX9V6DzUeJJ-DZL_b-LGLqABMI3p7WpYHKTKqEGL2hwvCAIGHt4XagHTv-i1AyCp2yEzJkW1rhF89gA3To0swTl1wwQBL06qN8U45e0ejpjFE,&typo=1> >> [9.9.9.9] >> over a maximum of 30 hops: >> >> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.6 >> 2 * * * Request timed out. >> 3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au&c=E,1,v-I2XvDzp_pHcCMZ2YKFIxqibyD1glspuDRFJxuKJ9q919LP9AsEjJjQESjhhJNoyDGN9vx1H5GQljwu81P-kKrH3jv5w0NC31hoYAPiDsB604YKyb9s83sD&typo=1> >> [202.10.14.198] >> 4 9 ms 14 ms 9 ms syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,0sAOb-sjvkiEGJvCUoLoYcwvqJKrq-_OskYHs5XHm1IwLmkk4psRwgs415_4wBx93P2iDctgax1Tlee6ubXOmShC79OI_5gq3_frE_1ieYnEuPEp&typo=1> >> [203.219.107.197] >> 5 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://67.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,CLPc01KR2oxn__RWhlxV66TV-o-cY-7JxeBZ5b8p21AB7GQc0ur4y7c2vA6fNgW3_Hn2CXME51Cwpi0Riy3TLKwLUZWYxFXISIzwT7TKLxvxcRGqppfkgqks778,&typo=1> >> [203.29.134.67] >> 6 149 ms 180 ms 150 ms ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net&c=E,1,8YfJpAtslAYRcCjK5id56jF_begz5prZCuUl1docEP_eyUvXI692cxBasgNWxoSUDOsF8hKlgt3dEvIPFlNKyeKTTwFrLugGSBXJGWf1InG9Sg0W21Lkbvg,&typo=1> >> [180.87.112.221] >> 7 344 ms 368 ms 368 ms xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net&c=E,1,mP3z_ChbjHx0MF57Ql3fPrO6tjGPghvaUR3reZeAHRiil6HWf7sf9pIlUPzDm9pDYPuumvJ3I-a_LM_5Ydu1RazDbOjxWz7wU_zz5F_c&typo=1> >> [64.212.107.9] >> 8 301 ms 293 ms 272 ms ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net&c=E,1,8FQxuTtGmfMUYNqPb05tr6qBGmee_sfCoGpzQ92PnbVczohcTNKCk126ApeB6hQTMFUCuzv5-p47YYNg9kopn6nMJm2ovbUz9w1JaXPGf3e9Pqo,&typo=1> >> [67.16.132.174] >> 9 283 ms 304 ms 303 ms 64.214.66.70 >> 10 293 ms 269 ms 264 ms dns.quad9.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KeE3IxL5xuM_L1nmsRSPVViVKn4Y5VqCvJMkIXJM0CxjwgLiaeu2Oi2UPL44eRCzqFl0zeUVySc6bcyP-kM-u0fvhgETufmTMmTI7ajlm_TZnxC_ZYdJeTfm&typo=1> >> [9.9.9.9] >> >> Trace complete. >> >> >> However from an Over the Wire service, it goes to their Sydney server (as >> below): >> >> >> >> C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9 >> >> Tracing route to dns.quad9.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KbQqUZysa6lb5YCIZbHCJk8zbJhM_LpMkKb724UeOhwV9KNi-mlijobOMjegZ_BkH0RaZIOHmMHrJ0pZmd7x-3gwyz4BAapg6CIBjmZ7AGp06w45evD_HgY,&typo=1> >> [9.9.9.9] >> over a maximum of 30 hops: >> >> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.3.254 >> 2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn >> 3 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn >> 4 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn >> 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au&c=E,1,6k7KJt529F2YGa6JIPg1okh1dv8x4MePx00IOQi0stJ5Z0ln9Ds0WEcdEKSZvm-8uaUBvka6VT8e8XgAc_6uSMs1Nq1yHWTJnBjECeJHHjA,&typo=1> >> [nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn] >> 6 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.254.251.164 >> 7 2 ms 4 ms 2 ms 42.syd.equinix.com >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://42.syd.equinix.com&c=E,1,nBhdVKNFDgbjn93FA5BywTe5v0ei4CRH2DMmQpyzWC96y0P-LCP5FmTEGWQexAesx0DdD-eRldQ_9iJOALjtw1gWG_SeZT5Yey7zeiJCCCoYxp8,&typo=1> >> [45.127.172.68] >> 8 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dns.quad9.net >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,EAjOoMwN7BmYyBfCIc9vZbGG1_AsSjAEbWICurpbOXRVBlwDNszeRUsr9qr77wTGB3MwDphv1Snxq95REufuQEv60OhV0rqvL8wVSnI27sZuDitJo59uz6ToRfs,&typo=1> >> [9.9.9.9] >> >> Trace complete. >> >> Any idea what the possible issue is? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> CH. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog&c=E,1,2F01LUo38JbUBQFWI1nHy2F9WIMyUUVQDnPhLz1IoGmKi_sdi47RbIkDN8XTJFR-q_73SzdMwGBsR6c3phRlYBW2MvWmo2pUbDRSOaxJ9Q,,&typo=1> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog&c=E,1,clyN_AR88CJfmKY4j9-J7YcS7jfSem4np54EWtRd-apjczLeggqe7DDrVYk2ej5QAhgFt79ZyVSqzF8Jvj-55kIAbpVZG3UutUFSho0fyx4,&typo=1> > > -- > > Kind Regards, > Joseph Goldman > > > <APCS-Logo-S.png> > > Joseph Goldman | Network Manager / Lead Software Developer > Asia Pacific Communication Specialist > AUS Mobile. +61 408 645 819 > PNG Mobile. +675 78 081 223 > Email. 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