Appeared this morning. Runs to 60pp vs 20pp for the Home Affairs submission.
https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321 On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:55, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd also venture the roll call for Friday is in no small degree window > dressing for Saturday's Wentworth turnout. I did forward my letter to PJCIS > onto Kerryn Phelps. > > Kind regards > > Paul Wilkins > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:48, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Committee is currently accepting submissions to this review. >> Submissions should be provided no later than *12pm, Friday, 12 October >> 2018.* An initial Public Hearing is expected to be held on Friday, 19 >> October 2018. *Further Public Hearings will be scheduled for late >> October or early November 2018.* >> >> >> *https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018 >> <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018>* >> >> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Optus (Singtel)'s submission was soft touch, saying they'll impose >>> whatever's required by government dictate. Pretty much to be expected given >>> their parent company is Singapore based. As Rob points out, most making >>> submissions won't be heard from. I'd go so far as to say this is by design. >>> Some very critical views are not to be heard from. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Paul Wilkins >>> >>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Robert Hudson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The schedule for the first day of public hearings on the 19th of >>>> October (this Friday) has been released: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=false >>>> >>>> For those who don't wish to download the PDF document, the following >>>> parties are scheduled to speak on this day: >>>> >>>> * The Department of Home Affairs. >>>> * The Law Council of Australia. This is an interesting one - it >>>> appears (unless my eyes are failing me) that they did not make a submission >>>> at all (or at least not one that the PJCIS has chosen to publish - their >>>> submission numbering goes to 66, yet their website counts only 64 >>>> submissions - submissions 12 and 14 are missing). >>>> * Optus "and others TBC". >>>> * Ai Group "and others TBC" (interestingly, Ai Group is only one of the >>>> parties involved in the cited submission - so they can't even attribute the >>>> submissions to the correct/complete groups). >>>> * Amazon, BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" (noting that the >>>> BSA submission is cited in the submissions pack for the day, but Amazon's >>>> isn't - and nor is it listed on the main list of submissions). >>>> * TBC. >>>> >>>> There's a pack of submissions (4 of them) relevant for the day - it's >>>> here if anyone's keen (particularly useful given some of the oddities I'll >>>> mention next): >>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=true >>>> >>>> Each is allocated a different time frame as well - DOHA have 60 minutes >>>> allocated, the Law Council of Australia get 45 minutes, Optus "and others >>>> TBC" get 45 minutes, Ai Group "and others TBC" receive 60 minutes, Amazon, >>>> BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" receive 75 minutes, and then >>>> the "TBC" section has a start time (3:15pm) but no finish time. >>>> >>>> It concerns me that as of nearly 9pm Sydney time on the 16th of October >>>> that "and others TBC" and "TBC" is still undefined for hearings starting on >>>> the 19th of October. I expressed an interest in participating in the >>>> public hearings on behalf of ITPA very early on in the consultation period >>>> - yet IF we do get invited to attend the public hearing on the 19th, >>>> they're giving me very little time to get myself down there (and to be >>>> honest, I may not be able to attend at this late notice, given I would have >>>> to make arrangements both at home and at work for me to travel to Canberra >>>> on Friday). I also can't start to plan for dates that aren't even >>>> published yet. >>>> >>>> Another concern is that with "around 65" submissions made, only a very >>>> small number of organisations have been invited to the public hearing - I >>>> believe there was talk of further public hearing days been added, but >>>> there's no indication of that on the PJCIS website at this stage - this is >>>> particularly concerning when you look at some of the parties NOT yet >>>> invited - organisations like Cisco, Telstra and Apple in particular given >>>> that Optus, Amazon and BSA are invited). >>>> >>>> It will be interesting to see how things continue to run from here. At >>>> this stage, I am not seeing evidence that the appropriate level and breadth >>>> of consultation will take place to ensure an appropriate outcome for >>>> Australia. >>>> >>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 17:37, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Robert, >>>>> When in Canberra, don't look for any support from PJCIS Chairman >>>>> Andrew Hastie, who is a Dutton supporter, and one of the leading >>>>> conspirators in rolling Turnbull. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 12:45, Robert Hudson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PJCIS is listing 37 submissions - way down on the 343 that were made >>>>>> to the Department of Home Affairs, but hopefully they'll actually get >>>>>> read >>>>>> and considered this time around. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried to stick to ITPA's area of expertise (tehnology) in the hope >>>>>> that other parties more qualified than us have focused on areas outside >>>>>> of >>>>>> technology - I have strong opinions in those areas, but thought it best >>>>>> to >>>>>> let experts make the points there. I also made it clear to the PJCIS >>>>>> that >>>>>> ITPA wishes to be invited to the public hearing, we'll see how that goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:26, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Rob, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to say thanks to everyone who's made the effort for what's a >>>>>>> pretty thankless and costly investment of time - trying to convey a >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> that Home Affairs appear intent to ignore. The Home Affairs consultation >>>>>>> was a wash. Let's hope PJCIS actually engage with the process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However if you don't engage with the process, you can't complain >>>>>>> about the results, so thanks again to those who've made submissions >>>>>>> (Home >>>>>>> Affairs and then again for PJCIS) to see that our industry's needs get >>>>>>> represented and, if not acknowledged, are at least on the public record >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> hold Home Affairs to account for what's some pretty imperious >>>>>>> unilateralism >>>>>>> and shabby disregard for the industry's and the public's concerns and >>>>>>> best >>>>>>> interests. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Robert Hudson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have just sent through my submission on behalf of ITPA. It's >>>>>>>> also published here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.itpa.org.au/news/itpa-submission-pjcis-telecommunications-and-other-legislation-amendment-assistance-and-access-bill-/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:17, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My submission is now up on PJCIS . Worth a read for anyone >>>>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh ho!! Now the rush behind the bill all makes sense - so the AFP >>>>>>>>>> can go after whoever leaked against Dutton and his au pairs! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/11/afp-search-raids-affairs-department-peter-dutton-au-pair-visa-leaks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Glad we cleared that up. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:14, Christian Heinrich < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > Good job peeps, 24 hours before submissions close with JCIS. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are 343 listed as of today (Thursday). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Heinrich >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cmlh.id.au/contact >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>> >>>>
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