"If this passes I can see similar legislation being introduced in other jurisdictions."
I think this legislation and all its warts is going to be a particularly Australian feature. The UK have RIPA already, which will probably become enforceable law after Brexit but there the notices require judicial approval. Europe is a no go due to GDPR and America has the 2nd Amendment, so surveilling citizens is a non starter. So far I've not seen any mention the interim law will have a sunset clause. Let's see, but if there's to be new legislation after the election, we may get a very different result. Without a sunset clause, political reality, we'll have to wear a botched job. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 10:30, Mark Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5 Dec 2018, at 9:54 am, Ross Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > >> More than likely they will get the app developer to make > >> a custom version, > > > > I wonder if they pay the app developer for this "service"? > > If the developer is outside Australian jurisdiction, how can they > “persuade" > > the developer to comply? And what's to stop the developer telling all and > > sundry what the changes were? > > If this passes I can see similar legislation being introduced in other > jurisdictions. Also “you cannot sell to Australians” with enforced > removal from app stores is likely to happen. From the government’s > perspective removal of the app is just as good as a compromised app. > > >> Most people will update when they are told the app is out of date. > > > > After this legislation passes, I think a great many people - especially > > those doing things that may bring them to the attention of authorities - > > will be highly suspicious of "updates" of all sorts. > > They still have to communicate with the rest of the world which is moving > on. > > >> We are training people to update regularly to close security holes. > > > > Or, to open new ones, as the case may soon be. > > In general updating is the safer thing to do despite the small > risk of new bugs being introduced especially if it update is > billed as a maintenance release. > > >> Alternatively they will covertly install the updated version > >> on the device. > > > > If they have the ability to do that now, why are the extra powers > required? > > Reverse engineering a fake app to make it behave like the original app is > difficult and error prone. Much simpler to get the developer to add the > covert logging capability to the existing app. > > > R. > > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >
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