Another option would be getting a cheap OpenWRT device, and writing something 
small to copy the sims.

If you're in Perth, I've got some stock of cheap OpenWRT devices which can read 
SMS's, then just pipe them into whatever you need with a small script.

OpenWRT can handle MMS with libmms, just a matter of working out where you want 
it to dump the files (could use an AWS S3 bucket or similar).

I also know Arduino also has similar capability, there's a thread on the forums 
about sending and receiving MMS.

Thanks,
Jett Jackson
Automation Engineer

From: AusNOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Psionyde
Sent: 23 July 2020 12:47 PM
To: Joseph Goldman <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP

Expanding on this idea, SMS Backup Plus 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync) can 
automatically transfer SMS/MMS(/call logs) to an attached gmail/IMAP account. 
SMS content is stored in the message body with MMS content being saved as an 
attachment. App can be configured to run on a schedule and/or on message 
arrival depending on your tolerance for latency. 

-Adrian

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 16:53, Joseph Goldman <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

 Have you looked at another side - of perhaps sitting the SIM in an Android 
phone, on charge, and mounted indefinitely - with using a web-based app like 
Android Messages (or other SMS apps that allow you to login through web to get 
your messages etc on desktop) - then just call-forward always on the voice side 
to a SIP landing number? I'm sure you could also get an app (or have one 
developed cheap from india) that can package up the SMS/MMS and email it to you 
also - and even back the other way if you email it back auto sends it out.

 Not sure how 'multi-user' this will be, depends on the app and if it allows 
multiple sessions at once through the web, and it will possibly incur 
call-forward costs on the Voice side - and you can present your MSN as CLID on 
the outbound leg when required (if this is still allowed).

Thanks,
Joe
On 16/07/2020 4:33 pm, Stephen wrote:
Hi John, 

They are particularly keen on keeping their numbers - will the redirect cover 
SMS/MMS as well, or only voice? Additionally they want to keep receiving calls 
on these same numbers, so it may not work - but nonetheless, still keen to hear 
your response. 

As far as for received calls, they would be looking to actually receive and 
talk with someone - either by redirect to another number, or by actually 
receiving the call on a SIP trunk etc. Unfortunately sounds like it may not 
work with you guys in this instance, but if not, will definitely file it away 
for future reference :) Thanks! 

On 16 Jul 2020, at 14:50, mailto:[email protected] wrote: 


Hi Stephen 

We at can handle inbound and outbound MMS and SMS through virtual MSISDN's, and 
will deliver the MMS payload via email, so you don’t have to "login" to get the 
MMS. Many older longcodes aren't capable of using this service so new numbers 
may be needed and a redirect if you need to keep your existing numbers. 

We can also terminate inbound VoIP, but we only do this with fixed line 
numbers, and not the same number as the SMS and MMS. Also interested to find 
out what you'd like to do with the call once received, eg - play a message, 
record a response or keypad input, and then email the response - something 
along those lines? 

So it all seems doable, unless you need the same mobile number to do SMS, MMS 
and inbound to SIP. Our solution would be inbound SMS and MMS to one number, 
inbound voice to another number. Hope you find the right solution. 

Cheers 
John 

John Hoffman 
CEO 
WEL Corporation Pty Ltd 
Mob/Cell +61 (0)427 185 038 
http://www.welcorp.com 


-----Original Message----- 
From: AusNOG mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Cameron Murray 
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 2:27 PM 
To: Stephen mailto:[email protected] 
Cc: mailto:[email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP 

We came up with a simple solution for this however not for MMS just the SMS 
side. 

A Small Teltonika IOT router with a $1/m SIM card from TPG. Teltonika has a 
built in SMS > Email feature. We looked at many options which were Hundreds of 
dollars per year and we got away with this for $1/Month + the initial hardware 
which in out case we already had. 

Keen to see what you come up with that covers MMS also. 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:48 PM Stephen mailto:[email protected] wrote: 


Hi Nathan, 

Thanks for the reply - not sure if that was separately directed just at Shaun 
for the mobile aspect, or also at my original request, but just to clarify I’ve 
spoken with Maxotel, and they offer every aspect of the above except for MMS 
(currently just a feature request). Cheers! 

On 16 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Nathan Brookfield wrote: 

Hi Shaun, 



I believe Maxotel may also offer a Mobile product like this as well, it may be 
worth reaching out to Alex and the team and checking in on what they can offer, 
they’ve got a pretty solid service. 



Kindest Regards, 



Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB) 

Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd 



From: AusNOG mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Shaun 
Deans 
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 1:26 PM 
To: Stephen mailto:[email protected] 
Cc: mailto:[email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP 



Stephen; 



I currently use an AU Mobile number hosted with Twilio and route the inbound 
SMS to email (via a webhook) and our inbound calls are routing in via SIP. 

Twilio's MMS in Australia is converted to an SMS by the carrier with an 
embedded URL and password in the SMS. You then log into a mini site hosted by 
the carrier and download the MMS attachment. 



With a bit of code, the login to the site could be scraped and you could have 
your SMS to Email and Sip calls. 



If your interested in scoping something out I can certainly assist you. 



Cheers 

Shaun Deans 
M: 041 880 4195 





On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Stephen mailto:[email protected] wrote: 

Hi folks, 

Been looking for a solution that will allow us to either 

a) Pop some SIM cards in a device, or 
b) Port mobile numbers over to a VoIP provider 

And upon doing so, receive calls to SIP, and SMS+MMS to email. I can’t 
really find any products that can do this, and Twilio has confirmed 
they can’t do it (MMS specifically) - same with Maxotel. Most 
providers seem to do VoIP + SMS, but not MMS. Most devices I’ve found 
will either do calls but not MMS+SMS, or MMS+SMS to email but no calls. 

Can anyone make some suggestions around possible products? Or am I 
restricted to putting permanent redirects on the mobile numbers with 
and 
SMS+MMS receiving device? If so, are there any “industry standard” 
ones here? Specifically it’s 3 SIM cards that we need to support. 

Thanks! 
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