" Did anyone get a reason from TPG/Vocus/AAPT for this morning's issues?

The only explanation I've been given is "a large amount of unexpected traffic 
incoming on our AAPT links, caused limits to be hit" which doesn't really 
explain anything." 

This is / was a new feature Microsoft are rolling out. 
Basically they will just block access completely if your found to be sending 
too much email at once. 
This is aimed at both Microsoft 365 users and non M365 users. 
Something obviously failed badly for them to be blocking too or three networks 
at once though.
The new feature was announced in one of the emails they send to admins.
Be good if they actually introduced some proper features around the handling of 
mailinglists as trying to reply to Ausnog with Outlook is painful Thunderbird 
did a much better job. 
I found the following on message throttling but can't find the announcement on 
the update. 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/mail-flow/message-rate-limits?view=exchserver-2019
 
Regards Chad.
Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au

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   1. Re: AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft (Chris Barnes)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 15:21:12 +1000
From: Chris Barnes <[email protected]>
To: Benjamin Ricardo <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
Message-ID:
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Did anyone get a reason from TPG/Vocus/AAPT for this morning's issues?

The only explanation I've been given is "a large amount of unexpected traffic 
incoming on our AAPT links, caused limits to be hit" which doesn't really 
explain anything.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 10:17, Benjamin Ricardo <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Looks good from our end too.
>
>
>
>
>
> Target Name: N/A
>
>          IP:
>
>   Date/Time: 2/08/2021 10:12:26 AM to 2/08/2021 10:14:41 AM
>
>
>
> 3   *        2 ms   *       13 ms   *        2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms
> N/A     110-174-60-173.static.tpgi.com.au [110.174.60.173]
>
> 4    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms
> N/A     au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
>
> 5    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    7 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms
> N/A     syd-gls-har-wgw1-be200.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.71]
>
> 6    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    5 ms    2 ms    4 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms
> N/A     203-219-107-194.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.107.194]
>
> 7    3 ms    4 ms    3 ms    7 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    4 ms
> N/A     bundle-ether84.chw-edge903.sydney.telstra.net [110.145.180.217]
>
> 8   11 ms    4 ms   21 ms    4 ms    3 ms    5 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms
> N/A     equ2996323.lnk.telstra.net [110.145.177.18]
>
> 9   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> N/A     be110.bdr01.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [175.45.72.31]
>
> 10   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> *      N/A     ip-94.199.103.123.vocus.net.au [123.103.199.94]
>
> 11   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> *      N/A     [101.97.57.150]
>
> 12    3 ms    4 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3
> ms  N/A     [101.97.57.146]
>
> 13    4 ms    5 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4
> ms  N/A     [103.92.94.226]
>
>
>
> Ping statistics for
>
> Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
>
> Round Trip Times: Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 3ms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Max Soukhomlinov <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:13 AM
> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo <[email protected]>; Thomas Jones < 
> [email protected]>; [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>
>
>
> Seems to be not just AAPT/TPG specific, however its returning to 
> normal now.
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected]
>
> *Max Soukhomlinov* | Director
>
> 1300 799 165, 201  |  +61 411 596 249 <+61%20411%20596%20249>  |
> [email protected]   |  www.intellectit.com.au
> Suite 214/215, Level 2, 343 Lt Collins St, Melbourne 3000
>
>
>
>
> <https://www.intellectit.com.au/expert-care-managed-services/?utm_camp
> aign=expert_care&utm_source=email_signature&utm_medium=email#req-quote
> >
>
> Disclaimer: This message may contain information which is confidential 
> or privileged. If you are not the named addressee of this email, you 
> must not disclose, disseminate or copy this email (and any 
> attachments). The integrity and security of this email cannot be 
> guaranteed as it may have been corrupted, intercepted or altered in 
> transmission, or contain viruses.
> Liability is not accepted for loss or damage caused by any virus, 
> errors or omissions arising from transmission by the Internet. If this 
> email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply 
> email and destroy the original
>
> *From:* AusNOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of 
> *Benjamin Ricardo
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:08
> *To:* Thomas Jones <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>
>
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
>                 We?re seeing it too I?m afraid.
>
>
>
> Target Name: N/A
>
>          IP:
>
>   Date/Time: 2/08/2021 10:02:56 AM to 2/08/2021 10:05:11 AM
>
>
>
> 2    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    0 ms    1
> ms    0 ms  acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]
>
> 3    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    5 ms    2 ms    2
> ms    2 ms  110-174-60-173.static.tpgi.com.au [110.174.60.173]
>
> 4    2 ms    2 ms    9 ms    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
> ms    2 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
>
> 5   25 ms   26 ms   29 ms   23 ms   24 ms   28 ms   27 ms   27 ms   22
> ms   23 ms  syd-gls-har-crt2-he-0-3-0-2.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.2]
>
> 6   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22
> ms   22 ms  nme-apt-bur-crt2-be-40.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173.18]
>
> 7   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22
> ms   22 ms  [220.244.229.246]
>
> 8   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23
> ms   23 ms  adl-adc-lon-wgw1-be-100.tpgi.com.au [203.219.199.3]
>
> 9   *       *       *       *       77 ms   77 ms   77 ms   78 ms
> *       *      be300.akingbrdr11.aapt.net.au [203.219.199.154]
>
> 10   77 ms   77 ms   78 ms   77 ms   *       77 ms   77 ms   77 ms
> *       77 ms  vlan99.dsw1.hay.connect.com.au [202.10.14.217]
>
> 11   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> *       *       [-]
>
> 12   *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *       *       77
> ms   *      be201.lsr01.adel.sa.vocus.network [103.1.77.136]
>
> 13   *       *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *
> *       77 ms  be801.lsr01.melb.vic.vocus.network [103.1.76.154]
>
> 14   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> *       *       [-]
>
> 15   *       *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *
> *       *      be221.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [103.1.77.9]
>
> 16   77 ms   *       *       *       *       76 ms   77 ms   *       76
> ms   77 ms  be110.bdr01.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [175.45.72.31]
>
> 17   *       76 ms   *       *       *       *       *       76 ms
>  *       *      ip-94.199.103.123.vocus.net.au [123.103.199.94]
>
> 18  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      76 ms   *       *
> *       *      [101.97.57.150]
>
> 19   77 ms   *       *       *       *       *       *       *
> *       *      [103.92.94.238]
>
>
>
> Ping statistics for 103.92.94.10
>
> Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 2, Lost = 8 (80.0%)
>
> Round Trip Times: Minimum = 76ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 76ms
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Thomas 
> Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:03 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Is anyone else having issues with TPG/AAPT connections to Microsoft? 
> As of around 40 minutes ago we can?t connect to Microsoft services 
> from our TPG/AAPT internet service.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Jones
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>


--
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. [email protected]
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 15:52:27 +0930
From: Andrew Welch <[email protected]>
To: Chris Barnes <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
Message-ID:
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Just saw the following article:
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/routing-issue-temporarily-locked-tpg-fixed-line-users-out-of-office-365-568117?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=iTnews+

They're saying it's a third party routing issue, but no more detail than that.

Kind regards,
Andrew Welch


On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 14:51, Chris Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Did anyone get a reason from TPG/Vocus/AAPT for this morning's issues?
>
> The only explanation I've been given is "a large amount of unexpected 
> traffic incoming on our AAPT links, caused limits to be hit" which 
> doesn't really explain anything.
>
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 10:17, Benjamin Ricardo <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Looks good from our end too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Target Name: N/A
>>
>>          IP:
>>
>>   Date/Time: 2/08/2021 10:12:26 AM to 2/08/2021 10:14:41 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> 3   *        2 ms   *       13 ms   *        2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms  N/A     110-174-60-173.static.tpgi.com.au [110.174.60.173]
>>
>> 4    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms  N/A     au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
>>
>> 5    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    7 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms  N/A     syd-gls-har-wgw1-be200.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.71]
>>
>> 6    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    5 ms    2 ms    4 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms  N/A     203-219-107-194.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.107.194]
>>
>> 7    3 ms    4 ms    3 ms    7 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    4
>> ms  N/A     bundle-ether84.chw-edge903.sydney.telstra.net
>> [110.145.180.217]
>>
>> 8   11 ms    4 ms   21 ms    4 ms    3 ms    5 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3
>> ms  N/A     equ2996323.lnk.telstra.net [110.145.177.18]
>>
>> 9   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *      N/A     be110.bdr01.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [175.45.72.31]
>>
>> 10   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *      N/A     ip-94.199.103.123.vocus.net.au [123.103.199.94]
>>
>> 11   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *      N/A     [101.97.57.150]
>>
>> 12    3 ms    4 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3 ms    3
>> ms  N/A     [101.97.57.146]
>>
>> 13    4 ms    5 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms    4
>> ms  N/A     [103.92.94.226]
>>
>>
>>
>> Ping statistics for
>>
>> Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
>>
>> Round Trip Times: Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 3ms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Max Soukhomlinov <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:13 AM
>> *To:* Benjamin Ricardo <[email protected]>; Thomas Jones < 
>> [email protected]>; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems to be not just AAPT/TPG specific, however its returning to 
>> normal now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>> *Max Soukhomlinov* | Director
>>
>> 1300 799 165, 201  |  +61 411 596 249 <+61%20411%20596%20249>  |
>> [email protected]   |  www.intellectit.com.au
>> Suite 214/215, Level 2, 343 Lt Collins St, Melbourne 3000
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.intellectit.com.au/expert-care-managed-services/?utm_cam
>> paign=expert_care&utm_source=email_signature&utm_medium=email#req-quo
>> te>
>>
>> Disclaimer: This message may contain information which is 
>> confidential or privileged. If you are not the named addressee of 
>> this email, you must not disclose, disseminate or copy this email 
>> (and any attachments). The integrity and security of this email 
>> cannot be guaranteed as it may have been corrupted, intercepted or altered 
>> in transmission, or contain viruses.
>> Liability is not accepted for loss or damage caused by any virus, 
>> errors or omissions arising from transmission by the Internet. If 
>> this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by 
>> reply email and destroy the original
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of 
>> *Benjamin Ricardo
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:08
>> *To:* Thomas Jones <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>>                 We?re seeing it too I?m afraid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Target Name: N/A
>>
>>          IP:
>>
>>   Date/Time: 2/08/2021 10:02:56 AM to 2/08/2021 10:05:11 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> 2    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    1 ms    0 ms    1
>> ms    0 ms  acs-asn-gw.acs.net.au [103.12.159.1]
>>
>> 3    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms    5 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms    2 ms  110-174-60-173.static.tpgi.com.au [110.174.60.173]
>>
>> 4    2 ms    2 ms    9 ms    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    2 ms    2
>> ms    2 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
>>
>> 5   25 ms   26 ms   29 ms   23 ms   24 ms   28 ms   27 ms   27 ms   22
>> ms   23 ms  syd-gls-har-crt2-he-0-3-0-2.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.2]
>>
>> 6   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22
>> ms   22 ms  nme-apt-bur-crt2-be-40.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173.18]
>>
>> 7   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22
>> ms   22 ms  [220.244.229.246]
>>
>> 8   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23
>> ms   23 ms  adl-adc-lon-wgw1-be-100.tpgi.com.au [203.219.199.3]
>>
>> 9   *       *       *       *       77 ms   77 ms   77 ms   78 ms
>> *       *      be300.akingbrdr11.aapt.net.au [203.219.199.154]
>>
>> 10   77 ms   77 ms   78 ms   77 ms   *       77 ms   77 ms   77 ms
>> *       77 ms  vlan99.dsw1.hay.connect.com.au [202.10.14.217]
>>
>> 11   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *       *       [-]
>>
>> 12   *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *       *       77
>> ms   *      be201.lsr01.adel.sa.vocus.network [103.1.77.136]
>>
>> 13   *       *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *
>> *       77 ms  be801.lsr01.melb.vic.vocus.network [103.1.76.154]
>>
>> 14   *       *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *       *       [-]
>>
>> 15   *       *       *       *       *       *       76 ms   *
>> *       *      be221.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [103.1.77.9]
>>
>> 16   77 ms   *       *       *       *       76 ms   77 ms   *       76
>> ms   77 ms  be110.bdr01.syd04.nsw.vocus.network [175.45.72.31]
>>
>> 17   *       76 ms   *       *       *       *       *       76 ms
>>  *       *      ip-94.199.103.123.vocus.net.au [123.103.199.94]
>>
>> 18  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      76 ms   *       *
>> *       *      [101.97.57.150]
>>
>> 19   77 ms   *       *       *       *       *       *       *
>> *       *      [103.92.94.238]
>>
>>
>>
>> Ping statistics for 103.92.94.10
>>
>> Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 2, Lost = 8 (80.0%)
>>
>> Round Trip Times: Minimum = 76ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 76ms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of 
>> *Thomas Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 August 2021 10:03 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] AAPT/TPG not connecting to Microsoft
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone else having issues with TPG/AAPT connections to Microsoft? 
>> As of around 40 minutes ago we can?t connect to Microsoft services 
>> from our TPG/AAPT internet service.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thomas Jones
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
> e. [email protected]
> _______________________________________________
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