This isn't just old devices either, my Android phone is running near enough to 
the latest release and this broke my radius auth against a Lets encrypt cert.


I had to manually edit the CA to remove the final root cert, which Lets Encrypt 
are still including via the renewal tool I'm using.


I knew it was coming, but didn't expect it to cause this problem....

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From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Luke Thompson 
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Sent: Friday, 1 October 2021 12:44:44 PM
To: Lachlan Gilmour; Mark Andrews
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Global DNS yuck?


cPanel also failed to plan for the expiry, so we're seeing workarounds then 
revocations (oops, that didn't work - etc). Still no real headway after 12~ 
hours.

The root cert expiry was a long time coming, though if you check Twitter it 
seems like it's caught many out.

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager


On 1/10/21 12:40 pm, Lachlan Gilmour wrote:
I believe it is related to the Lets Encrypt root cert that expired overnight.

I've seen quite a few older devices today having issues accessing sites using 
lets encrypt certs.

More info on the issue can be found here: 
https://docs.certifytheweb.com/docs/kb/kb-202109-letsencrypt/<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZhMDU5Mjk2ZGMwY2FkNGNjYz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiYyZjk4NjkwOGJlM2E1YTI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZG9jcyUyRWNlcnRpZnl0aGV3ZWIlMkVjb20lMkZkb2NzJTJGa2IlMkZrYi0yMDIxMDktbGV0c2VuY3J5cHQlMkY=>

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:36 PM Mark Andrews 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
More correctly they had working DNSSEC deployed 
(https://dnsviz.net/d/slack.com/YVXX_g/dnssec/<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiMTQ0NjA3MDliZDFkZGRhYz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiY0ZjA4NjkwOGJlM2E1OWY9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZG5zdml6JTJFbmV0JTJGZCUyRnNsYWNrJTJFY29tJTJGWVZYWCU1RmclMkZkbnNzZWMlMkY=>)
 and then pulled both the DS records for 
slack.com<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiYzQ0M2I2NDhlOGQ5ZWM4Yz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiZiZmFjYjk4Y2FlZGU1YWI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZzbGFjayUyRWNvbQ==>
 and the DNSSEC records in 
slack.com<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiYzQ0M2I2NDhlOGQ5ZWM4Yz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiZiZmFjYjk4Y2FlZGU1YWI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZzbGFjayUyRWNvbQ==>
 AT THE SAME TIME resulting in DNSSEC validation failures. Cached DS records 
said 
slack.com<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiYzQ0M2I2NDhlOGQ5ZWM4Yz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiZiZmFjYjk4Y2FlZGU1YWI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZzbGFjayUyRWNvbQ==>
 is signed but the answers from the 
slack.com<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiYzQ0M2I2NDhlOGQ5ZWM4Yz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiZiZmFjYjk4Y2FlZGU1YWI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZzbGFjayUyRWNvbQ==>
 servers where missing the DNSSEC records. They failed to wait for the DS 
records to expire from DNS caches before removing the DNSSEC records in 
slack.com<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiYzQ0M2I2NDhlOGQ5ZWM4Yz02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiZiZmFjYjk4Y2FlZGU1YWI9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZzbGFjayUyRWNvbQ==>.
  Failure to wait for unsigned responses to clear caches before publishing DS 
records can also cause issues with multiple levels of caching.

> On 1 Oct 2021, at 08:23, Scott Howard 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> They broke (and subsequently fixed) their DNSSEC configuration many hours 
> ago, but it was broken long enough to get cached by some servers for up to 24 
> hours so some users are still having issues connecting.
>
> Short of the classic "have your ISP clear their DNS cache" not much anyone 
> can do except wait it out...
>
> https://status.slack.com/2021-09/06c1e17de93e7dc2<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiODUxMmM3ZjlhYzFkZWQ2OD02MTU2NzYzNV83NTY2MV8xNTEwNl8xJiY4YTk5OGMxZDVhM2JhZmY9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGc3RhdHVzJTJFc2xhY2slMkVjb20lMkYyMDIxLTA5JTJGMDZjMWUxN2RlOTNlN2RjMg==>
>
>   Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 3:19 PM Andrew Yager 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Slack is down and finding a few other (non slack) services etc being broken 
> seemingly with DNS things. Anyone know what’s going on?
>
> A
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