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Enclosed are the minutes from yesterdays meeting, the next meeting is next week
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Andrew
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Minutes of the 15th September 2016 Teleconference     Austin-783 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 16th September 2016

Attendees:
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    David Clissold, IBM
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer (by phone only)
    Eric Blake, Red Hat
    Richard Hansen, Google
    Martin Rehak, Oracle, The Open Group OR
 
Apologies
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group

* General news

Nick reported us on the result of the SC22 meeting attended by Andrew and Nick
earlier in the week, the conclusion being that TC2 will get an ISO ballot.



* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 28 Jan 2016)

Bug 0000249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.

Bug 0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified   Was Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953
Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon.

* Current Business


Bug 1009:"remain in affect after" and "during the execution" are problematic 
when built-in/function modifies the variable Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1009 

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

V7TC2D4 Page 2366, Line 75516, (TC2D3 #75172), Section: 2.9.1 Change:

    If the command name is a special built-in utility, variable
    assignments shall affect the current execution environment.

to:

    If the command name is a special built-in utility, variable
    assignments shall affect the current execution environment
    before the utility is executed and remain in effect when the
    command completes; if an assigned variable is further modified
    by the utility, the modifications made by the utility shall
    persist.

Change V7TC2D4 XCU 2.14, Item 2 (Page 2385, L76309) from:

    2. As described in Section 2.9.1, variable assignments preceding
    the invocation of a special built-in utility remain in effect
    after the built-in completes; this shall not be the case with
    a regular built-in or other utility.

to:

    2. As described in Section 2.9.1, variable assignments preceding
    the invocation of a special built-in utility affect the current
    execution environment; this shall not be the case with a regular
    built-in or other utility.

Change the description of set -a (V7TC2D4 P2409 L77097-77103) from:

    When this option is on, the export attribute shall be set for
    each variable to which an assignment is performed; see XBD
    Section 4.23. If the assignment precedes a utility name in a
    command, the export attribute shall not persist in the current
    execution environment after the utility completes, with the
    exception that preceding one of the special built-in utilities
    causes the export attribute to persist after the built-in has
    completed. If the assignment does not precede a utility name
    in the command, or if the assignment is a result of the operation
    of the getopts or read utilities, the export attribute shall
    persist until the variable is unset.

to:

    Set the export attribute for all variable assignments. When
    this option is on, a variable that is assigned a value (see
    [xref to XBD Section 4.23]), including variables that are
    assigned a value by the getopts, read, or cd utilities, shall
    cause that variable to gain the export attribute. Note: As
    discussed in [xref to XCU 2.9.1], not all variable assignments
    happen in the current execution environment. When an assignment
    happens in a separate execution environment the export attribute
    is still set for the variable, but that does not affect the
    current execution environment.


Bug #1011: Make the binary search tree functions friendlier to use: require 
balancing, add typing and allow destruction OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1011


We started a discussion on this item and will continue next time.


Next Steps
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The next call is on September 22nd, 2016 (a Thursday)

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

An IRC channel will be available for the meeting
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An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as 
below:

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Austin Group Chair          
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