Hi Chris and Jon,

Please note that the IESG requested expedited processing of this doc cluster at 
the request of the working group on 8 May.
Please respond to these questions as soon as possible.

-andy, ART AD

On 6/2/25 18:27, Sandy Ginoza wrote:
Greetings all,

We do not believe we have received a reply regarding the questions below.  
Please review.

Thank you,
RFC Editor/sg

On May 23, 2025, at 11:51 AM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:

Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!-- [rfced] Is "For this document" needed?

Original:
   For this document
   and depending on the policies of the communications system, a calling
   party could be either the end user device (e.g., a SIP user agent
   (UA)) or a network service as part of a telephone service provider.

Perhaps:
   Depending on the policies of the communications system, a calling
   party could be either the end user device (e.g., a SIP user agent
   (UA)) or a network service as part of a telephone service provider.

Alternatively, perhaps:
   As defined in this document, depending on the policies of the
   communications system, a calling party could be either the end
   user device (e.g., a SIP user agent (UA)) or a network service
   as part of a telephone service provider.
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first use
per the RFC Style Guide (see 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7322.html#section-3.6). Please review each 
expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.

UNI -> User-Network Interface (UNI)
STIR -> Secure Telephone Identity Revisited (STIR)
-->


3) <!-- [rfced] Are logo and icons an example of calling name info?

Original:
   The STIR RCD
   specification [I-D.ietf-stir-passport-rcd] defines calling name, a
   logo or icon associated with the caller, and a call reason string.

Perhaps:
   The STIR RCD
   specification [RFC9795] defines calling name (e.g., a logo or icon
   associated with the caller) and a call reason string.
-->


4) <!-- [rfced] For readability, please consider the possible update below.  Also, is the 
information not to be "considered" modifiable, or should it be not modifiable?

Original:
   The insertion of the RCD Call-Info header field
   should be considered a trusted action based on trusted information,
   and the information MUST NOT be considered modifiable representing
   the best practice of determining the final representation of the
   caller RCD to the user.

Perhaps:
   The best way to determine the final representation of the
   caller RCD to the user is to consider the insertion of the
   RCD Call-Info header field a trusted action based on trusted information,
   whereby the information MUST NOT be considered modifiable.
-->


5) <!-- [rfced] It's unclear which section this sentence is referring to, as 
this document does not have a Section 8.2.  Perhaps Section 10.2 is intended?

Current:
   Section 8.2 provides high-level guidance on image formatting and
   related information.
-->


6) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble parsing this sentence.

a) Are "fn", "photo", and "logo" fields AND properties, or should the text
refer to the properties (e.g., 'If "fn", "photo", or "logo" are used...')?

b) What MUST match?

c) Should single quotes be used as follows, as it appears token names usually 
appear in single quote?

purpose token -> 'purpose' token

Original:
   The fields like "fn", "photo", or "logo" if used with the use of
   "icon" or calling name in From or P-Asserted-ID header field or
   purpose token, as described in the previous section, MUST match if
   present to allow the called party to clearly determine the intended
   calling name or icon.
-->


7) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble understanding how "or any future parameters that may be 
defined" relates to the text.  "only" seems to limit the parameters that may be used, but 
"any future parameters" seems open ended (i.e., any parameter).  Please review and consider whether 
the text can be clarified.

Original:
   In the case that there is only a 'call-reason' or 'verified'
   parameter or any future parameters that may be defined and no need
   for a purpose parameter with no associated URI the null data URI,
   "data:" is used as the URI.
-->


8) <!--[rfced] May this be rephrased to clarify "of whom"? Seemingly this
is about the trusted relationship with the party from whom they receive
the SIP request.

Original:
   As a general
   principle of Call-Info header field information, the recipients
   ability to trust the 'verified' parameter is based on the trusted
   relationship of whom they are receiving the SIP request.

Perhaps:
   As a general
   principle of Call-Info header field information, the recipients'
   ability to trust the 'verified' parameter is based on the trusted
   relationship with the party from whom they are receiving the SIP request.
-->


9) <!-- [rfced] 'icon' vs. "icon"
This term appears in single quotes (2 instances) and double quotes (6 
instances);
should it be consistent?

Original:
  Example where the parameter verified="true" is used to represent that
  a verification procedure has been performed within a trust domain to
  indicate the 'icon' URL has been successfully verified:
-->


10) <!-- [rfced] This sentence is difficult to parse.  Please clarify.

Original:
   This
   document defines the convention that when a Call-Info header field
   with a null data URI, "data:", a default purpose of "jcard" and
   adding a verified="true" indicates that the display-name information
   in either the From and/or P-Asserted-ID header field has been
   verified via RCD verification procedures.

Perhaps:
   This
   document defines that the display-name information
   in either the From and/or P-Asserted-ID header field has
   been verified via RCD verification procedures when the following are present:

   *  a Call-Info header field with a null data URI, "data:",
   *  a default purpose of "jcard", and
   *  verified="true".
-->


11) <!-- [rfced] This sentence starts with "this hash value" and switches to "the 
integrity value", but the connection between these is unclear.  Please review.

Original:
   Typically, this hash value, assuming the URI and the resource pointed
   to the URI don't change between the STIR RCD PASSporT and the Call-
   Info URI value, the integrity value can be directly used as the same
   corresponding string in both the 'rcdi' claim and the 'integrity'
   parameter string value.

Perhaps:
   Assuming the URI and the resource pointing
   to the URI don't change between the STIR RCD PASSporT and the Call-
   Info URI value, the integrity value can typically be used as the same
   corresponding string in both the "rcdi" claim and the 'integrity'
   parameter.
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble parsing this sentence.  Please clarify.

Original:
   Note: the inclusion of both the 'verified' and 'integrity' when an
   'rcdi' claim is included and the identity header field and included
   PASSporT is verified successfully is the suggested outcome.

Perhaps:
   Note: The ideal outcome is to include the 'verified' and
   'integrity' parameters in an "rcdi" claim and the identity
   header field, and to have the PASSporT verified successfully.
-->


13) <!-- [rfced] We are unsure what "is a general anticipated process" means.  Perhaps the text should refer to an 
"expected process" or an "accepted process"?  Also, is the process a "general process" or is the 
process "generally anticipated"?

Original:
   Because the 'rcd' Call-Info header field is inserted as part of the
   receiving part of the transition from NNI to UNI, the information
   populated in a received stir ‘rcd’ PASSporT that is verified is a
   general anticipated process for translating information into the
   'rcd' Call-Info header field to transport the rich call data into the
   UNI toward the end user device.
-->


14) <!-- [rfced] Should the text refer to the "jcard" and "icon" parameters 
here (i.e., lowercase and doublequotes)?

Original:
   The following example provides both the STIR RCD PASSporT and the
   corresponding set of Call-Info header fields shows the use of
   multiple 'purpose' parameters to indicate a jCard and an icon and
   also a 'call-reason' parameter:
-->


15) <!-- [rfced] The last sentence below is dense and hard to follow.  Please 
review.

Original (the sentence prior is provided for context):
   When one or more URIs are used in a jCard, it is important to note
   that any URI-referenced data, with the exception of the top-level
   usage of "jcl" as a URI to the jCard itself MUST NOT contain any URI
   references.  In other words, the jCard can have URI references as
   defined in the jCard specification and this document, but the content
   referenced by those URIs MUST NOT have any URIs, and therefore MUST
   be enforced by the client to not follow those URI references or not
   render that content to the user if any URI are present in that
   specific URI linked content.

Perhaps:
   In other words, the jCard can have URI references as
   defined in the jCard specification and this document, but the content
   referenced by those URIs MUST NOT have any URIs; therefore, the client MUST
   ensure that those URI references are not followed, and any URIs that are
   present in that specific URI-linked content are not rendered.
-->


16) <!-- [rfced] It appears as though tokens appear in double quotes.  Should the section 
title be updated to reflect "icon"?

Original:
10.2.  Usage of Multimedia Data in jCard or with Icon

Perhaps:
10.2.  Usage of Multimedia Data in jCard or with the "icon" Token
-->


17) <!-- [rfced] Is it accurate to refer to the 'potential instances of the "tel" 
property', as opposed to 'instances of the "tel" property'?

Original:
   It is important to note that any of the potential instances of the
   "tel" property should not be considered part of the authentication or
   verification part of STIR [RFC8224] or required to match the "orig"
   claim in the PASSporT [RFC8225].

Similarly, is "has the intent" correct in the following (instead of "provides" and 
"specifies")?

Original:
   The "title" property has the intent of providing the position or job
   of the object the jCard represents.  Reference [RFC6350],
   Section 6.6.1.

   The "role" property has the intent of providing the position or job
   of the object the jCard represents.  Reference [RFC6350],
   Section 6.6.2.

   The "logo" property has the intent of specifying a graphic image of a
   logo associated with the object the jCard represents.  Reference
   [RFC6350], Section 6.6.3.

   The "org" property has the intent of specifying the organizational
   name and units of the object the jCard represents.  Reference
   [RFC6350], Section 6.6.4.

   The "version" property MUST be included and is intended to specify
   the version of the vCard specification used to format this vCard.
-->


18) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, we suggest the update below.  Please review and 
let us know if this acceptable.

Original:
   The end client receiving a jCard with a
   "url" property MUST only display the URL and not automatically follow
   the URL or provide automatic preview of the URL, and generally
   provide good practices in making it clear to the user it is their
   choice to follow the URL in a browser context consistent with all of
   the common browser security and privacy practices available on most
   consumer OS environments.

Perhaps:
   The end client receiving a jCard with a
   "url" property MUST only display the URL and not automatically follow
   the URL or provide an automatic preview of the URL.  In addition, it MUST 
generally
   adhere to good practice to make it clear to the user that it is their
   choice whether to follow the URL in a browser context consistent with all of
   the common browser security and privacy practices available on most
   consumer OS environments.
-->


19) <!-- [rfced] "since its existence" is awkward; may we update the text as 
follows?

Current:
   The SIP framework, defined in [RFC3261] and the various extensions to
   SIP, which includes STIR [RFC8224] and rich call data [RFC9795], since
   its existence has provided mechanisms to assert information about the
   person or entity behind the call.

Perhaps:
   The SIP framework, defined in [RFC3261] and the various extensions to
   SIP, which includes STIR [RFC8224] and rich call data [RFC9795],
   has always provided mechanisms to assert information about the
   person or entity behind the call.
-->


20) <!-- [rfced] What does "weigh this responsibility" refer to?  Is it
the core security consideration, the risk of impersonation, or both?

Original (earlier sentences included for context):
   It can also
   enable the ability for actors to impersonate a calling party they are
   not authorized to represent.  The core security consideration that
   either explicitly or implicitly have been acknowledged with any of
   the SIP and STIR specifications is that there is a management and
   policy layer that validates the participants in the ecosystem and
   their use of a SIP network with telephone number identifiers and
   identity related information.  The use of this specification should
   weigh this responsibility and make the appropriate considerations to
   validate the proper participation and use of these tools follow these
   larger security, impersonation prevention, and privacy
   considerations.

Perhaps:
   Users should assess this [risk / core consideration / both the risk
   and core consideration] and make the appropriate adjustments to
   validate proper participation while following these
   larger security, impersonation prevention, and privacy
   considerations.
-->


21) <!--[rfced] May this be rephrased for readability? If so, who should
do the considering?

Original:
   A network specific
   set of policies or best practices for the use and hosting of media
   content that is agreed to contain validated media resources that have
   been evaluated to not pose a security threat to the participants or
   the devices supported in the ecosystem should be considered.

Perhaps:
   Network administrators should consider a network-specific
   set of policies or best practices for the use and hosting of media
   content that is agreed to contain validated media resources that have
   been evaluated to not pose a security threat to the participants or
   the devices supported in the ecosystem.
-->


22) <!-- [rfced] Regarding [W3C-SRI], the original URL
for this reference directed the reader to a W3C First Public Working Draft
with a date of 22 April 2025. However, the original date provided for
this reference was 23 June 2016, which matches that of the W3C
Recommendation titled "Subresource Integrity"
(https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-SRI-20160623/). We have updated this
reference to that.

However, please let us know if you intended to point to
the First Public Working Draft (https://www.w3.org/TR/2025/WD-sri-2-20250422/)
or otherwise.

Original:
   [W3C-SRI]  W3C, "Subresource Integrity", 23 July 2016,
              <https://www.w3.org/TR/SRI/>.

Current:
   [W3C-SRI]  Akhawe, D., Ed., Braun, F., Ed., Marier, F., Ed., and J.
              Weinberger, Ed., "Subresource Integrity", W3C
              Recommendation, 23 June 2016,
              <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-SRI-20160623/>.
-->


23) <!-- [rfced] Regarding [ITUJPEG]: This reference uses the date for the 
ISO/IEC
Standard ISO/IEC 10918-5 (May 2013), but points to the ITU-T
Recommendation which was published in May 2011
(https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-T.871-201105-I/en). We have updated this
reference to use the date for the ITU-T Recommendation and added a URL
pointing to that specification. Please let us know if you have any
concerns.
-->


24) <!-- [rfced] We have added a URL to the [ISOPNG] reference.  Please let us 
know if you have any concerns.

Current:
   [ISOPNG]   ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Computer graphics and
              image processing - Portable Network Graphics (PNG),
              Functional specification", ISO/IEC 15948:2004, March 2004,
              <https://www.iso.org/standard/29581.html>.
-->


25) <!-- [rfced] Note that we updated claim names to use double quotes to match the 
use in RFC-to-be 9575 <draft-ietf-stir-passport-rcd>.  Please let us know if any 
updates are required.

Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used
inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they
may be made consistent.

rich call data vs. Rich Call Data

Also, would you like instances of "Rich Call Data" to be replaced with "RCD"
throughout, or is it intentionally expanded in the instances that remain?
-->


26) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document
should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for
content that is semantically less important or tangential to the
content that surrounds it" 
(https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside).
-->


27) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/sg/ar

On May 23, 2025, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:

*****IMPORTANT*****

Updated 2025/05/23

RFC Author(s):
--------------

Instructions for Completing AUTH48

Your document has now entered AUTH48.  Once it has been reviewed and
approved by you and all coauthors, it will be published as an RFC.
If an author is no longer available, there are several remedies
available as listed in the FAQ (https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/).

You and you coauthors are responsible for engaging other parties
(e.g., Contributors or Working Group) as necessary before providing
your approval.

Planning your review
---------------------

Please review the following aspects of your document:

*  RFC Editor questions

  Please review and resolve any questions raised by the RFC Editor
  that have been included in the XML file as comments marked as
  follows:

  <!-- [rfced] ... -->

  These questions will also be sent in a subsequent email.

*  Changes submitted by coauthors

  Please ensure that you review any changes submitted by your
  coauthors.  We assume that if you do not speak up that you
  agree to changes submitted by your coauthors.

*  Content

  Please review the full content of the document, as this cannot
  change once the RFC is published.  Please pay particular attention to:
  - IANA considerations updates (if applicable)
  - contact information
  - references

*  Copyright notices and legends

  Please review the copyright notice and legends as defined in
  RFC 5378 and the Trust Legal Provisions
  (TLP – https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info).

*  Semantic markup

  Please review the markup in the XML file to ensure that elements of
  content are correctly tagged.  For example, ensure that <sourcecode>
  and <artwork> are set correctly.  See details at
  <https://authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary>.

*  Formatted output

  Please review the PDF, HTML, and TXT files to ensure that the
  formatted output, as generated from the markup in the XML file, is
  reasonable.  Please note that the TXT will have formatting
  limitations compared to the PDF and HTML.


Submitting changes
------------------

To submit changes, please reply to this email using ‘REPLY ALL’ as all
the parties CCed on this message need to see your changes. The parties
include:

  *  your coauthors

  *  rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org (the RPC team)

  *  other document participants, depending on the stream (e.g.,
     IETF Stream participants are your working group chairs, the
     responsible ADs, and the document shepherd).

  *  auth48archive@rfc-editor.org, which is a new archival mailing list
     to preserve AUTH48 conversations; it is not an active discussion
     list:

    *  More info:
       
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc

    *  The archive itself:
       https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/

    *  Note: If only absolutely necessary, you may temporarily opt out
       of the archiving of messages (e.g., to discuss a sensitive matter).
       If needed, please add a note at the top of the message that you
       have dropped the address. When the discussion is concluded,
       auth48archive@rfc-editor.org will be re-added to the CC list and
       its addition will be noted at the top of the message.

You may submit your changes in one of two ways:

An update to the provided XML file
— OR —
An explicit list of changes in this format

Section # (or indicate Global)

OLD:
old text

NEW:
new text

You do not need to reply with both an updated XML file and an explicit
list of changes, as either form is sufficient.

We will ask a stream manager to review and approve any changes that seem
beyond editorial in nature, e.g., addition of new text, deletion of text,
and technical changes.  Information about stream managers can be found in
the FAQ.  Editorial changes do not require approval from a stream manager.


Approving for publication
--------------------------

To approve your RFC for publication, please reply to this email stating
that you approve this RFC for publication.  Please use ‘REPLY ALL’,
as all the parties CCed on this message need to see your approval.


Files
-----

The files are available here:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796.xml
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796.html
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796.pdf
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796.txt

Diff file of the text:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796-diff.html
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796-rfcdiff.html (side by side)

Diff of the XML:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9796-xmldiff1.html


Tracking progress
-----------------

The details of the AUTH48 status of your document are here:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9796

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thank you for your cooperation,

RFC Editor

--------------------------------------
RFC9796 (draft-ietf-sipcore-callinfo-rcd-19)

Title            : SIP Call-Info Parameters for Rich Call Data
Author(s)        : C. Wendt, J. Peterson
WG Chair(s)      : Brian Rosen, Jean Mahoney
Area Director(s) : Andy Newton, Orie Steele



--
auth48archive mailing list -- auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
To unsubscribe send an email to auth48archive-le...@rfc-editor.org

Reply via email to