Hi Bruno,
Apologize for the late reply!

The changes looks good to me, I approve.

Best regards,
Dan

On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 8:07 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

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> *From:* DECRAENE Bruno INNOV/NET
> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2025 1:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9855
> <draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-21> for your review
>
>
>
> Hi RFC Editor, all
>
>
>
> Thanks for the document.
>
>
>
> Please find below some comments.
>
>
>
> Some comments are beyond editorial (§7.1, §5.4). Someone please review and
> ack.
>
>
>
> §5
>
> In figure 1, the link/line from R2 to N1 is significantly offset from N1.
> It looks doable to better align the link & N1
>
>
>
> OLD:
>
>   S ------- N1 ----------- D
>
>   *\         |  \          |
>
>   * \        |   \         |
>
>   *  \       |    \        |
>
>   *   N2-----R1****R2 *** R3
>
>   *          *
>
>   N3 *********
>
>
>
> NEW:
>
>   S --------- N1 --------- D
>
>   *\          | \          |
>
>   * \         |  \         |
>
>   *  \        |   \        |
>
>   *   N2----- R1***R2 *** R3
>
>   *           *
>
>   N3 **********
>
>
>
>
>
> ----
>
> §5.4
>
> OLD: post- convergence
>
> NEW: post-convergence
>
> ---
>
> §5.4
>
> OLD:  As mentioned in Section 3
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9855.html#base>, a list of
> adjacency SIDs can be used to encode the path between P and Q. However, the
> PLR can perform additional computations to compute a list of segments that
> represent a loop-free path from P to Q.
>
>
>
> Problem: “a list of adjacency SIDs” _*is*_ (already) “a list of
> segments”.
>
>
>
> Proposed NEW: As mentioned in Section 3
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9855.html#base>, a list of
> adjacency SIDs can be used to encode the path between P and Q. However, the
> PLR can perform additional computations to compute a shorter list of
> segments that represent a loop-free path from P to Q.
>
>
>
> (+ ‘shorter’)
>
> Alternatively, we could introduce the term “node SIDs’ to explicit the
> difference compared to the list of adjacency SIDs, but this may be harder
> to phrase and less general.
>
> e.g, Proposed NEW2: As mentioned in Section 3
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9855.html#base>, a list of
> adjacency SIDs can be used to encode the path between P and Q. However, the
> PLR can perform additional computations to compute a list of node and
> adjacency segments that represent a loop-free path from P to Q.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> §7.1
>
>
>
> OLD: If the active segment is a node segment that has been signaled with
> penultimate hop popping, and the repair list ends with an adjacency segment
> terminating on a node that advertised the "NEXT" operation [RFC8402
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9855.html#RFC8402>] of the active
> segment, then the active segment *MUST* be popped before pushing the
> repair list.
>
>
>
> Problem: the penultimate does not really “advertise’ the NEXT operation.
> (penultimate of popping is advertised by the ultimate node)
>
>
>
> Proposed NEW: If the active segment is a node segment that has been
> signaled with penultimate hop popping, and the repair list ends with an
> adjacency segment terminating on the penultimate node of the active
> segment, then the active segment *MUST* be popped before pushing the
> repair list.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Appendix A
>
>
>
>
>
> OLD:
>
>
>
>               H --- I --- J
>
>               |           | \
>
>    PE4        |           |  PE3
>
>       \       | (L)       | /
>
>         A --- X --- B --- G
>
>        /      |           | \
>
>     PE1       |           |  PE2
>
>        \      |           | /
>
>         C --- D --- E --- F
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> NEW:
>
>
>
>               H --- I --- J *
>
>               |           |  *
>
>    PE4        |           |   PE3
>
>       \       | (L)       |  *
>
>       * A --- X --- B --- G *
>
>      *        |           |  *
>
>    PE1        |           |   PE2
>
>      *        |           |  *
>
>       * C --- D --- E --- F *
>
>
>
>
>
> Note:
>
> -       “In  Figure 3, we consider a network with all metrics equal to 1
> except the metrics on links used by PE1, PE2, and PE3, which are 1000.”
>
> -       In all other Figures (1 & 2), we used a convention to use “**”
> for the links having the high metric. I’d propose that we do the same
> convention for Figure 3.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Appendix A
>
>
>
> “Another consideration to take into account is as follows: While using the
> expected post-convergence path”
>
>
>
> I’m not familiar with English typographic rules, but I would not have
> expected an upper case “W” for “While”
>
>
>
> --
>
> Appendix A
>
>
>
> OLD:
>
>    The measurement below indicates that, for link and local SRLG
>
>    protection, a 1-SID repair path delivers more than 99% coverage.  For
>
>    node protection, a 2-SID repair path yields 99% coverage.
>
> […]
>
>    The measurements listed in the tables indicate that for link and
>
>    local SRLG protection, a 1-SID repair path is sufficient to protect
>
>    more than 99% of the prefix in almost all cases.  For node
>
>    protection, 2-SID repair paths yield 99% coverage.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This seems like a duplicate. I would suggest removing the second paragraph.
>
>
>
>
>
> NEW:
>
>    The measurement below indicates that, for link and local SRLG
>
>    protection, a 1-SID repair path delivers more than 99% coverage.  For
>
>    node protection, a 2-SID repair path yields 99% coverage.
>
>
>
>
>
> In addition, text is not strictly correct. It’s not “a 1-SID repair path”
> but “a 1-SID or less repair path. Idem for “2-SID.
>
>
>
> Hence NEW2:
>
>
>
>    The measurement below indicates that, for link and local SRLG
>
>    protection, a 1-SID or less repair path delivers more than 99%
> coverage.  For
>
>    node protection, a 2-SID or less repair path yields 99% coverage.
>
>
>
> Feel free to reword in a better way.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Appendix A
>
>
>
> Nit picking… I would propose
>
>
>
> OLD: 100.0%
>
> NEW: 100%
>
>
>
> (in all tables)
>
>
>
> (as it’s mathematically not possible to go beyond 100%, the extra decimal
> digit is useless, while slightly reduce readability)
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Best regards,
>
> --Bruno
>
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> RFC9855 (draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-21)
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> Title            : Topology Independent Fast Reroute using Segment Routing
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> Author(s)        : A. Bashandy, S. Litkowski, C. Filsfils, P. Francois, B.
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